What a night!!!!!

[Z28pr0jekt]

That specific statute doesn't have the limit but I can post them if need be, I just gotta go back on westlaw, I found them but didn't bother to post them up

[95formula383lt1]

You are going to need to look VERY closely at your local statutes for exhaust systems. It's probably going to have verbage pertaining to "louder than stock equipped" or something like that. Hate to say it but they're probably going to get you on that. They don't have a leg to stand on considering the MT's are street legal. License plate will most likely end up as a fix-it, in which case you can show up with it unobstructed and get that tossed.

BIGGEST thing you have going is a witness as to the cops attitude about the situation.

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Ryan and I are on the same lines here. What you NEED to do is find a decibal limit absolutely stated in teh statutes, then get your car tested at idle and various loads, and compare that to what the statute says. I'm betting that the statute doesn't even have a decibal limit listed, or if they do it's probably going to be an idle specification, or if you're lucky the DB limit pertaining to what the load is won't be specified, and you can easily walk away from that one.

im almost willing to accept the exaust ticket, and my tires will there pretty much new but they are getting down to the wear bars, but his biggest thing was the tires were unsafe period and not street legal, then he noiced the wear bars are starting to show but when u buy them brand new there not far from showing to begin with one good burnout to heat the tires and there already down to the bars.

and btw ryan thank you so much for that on the statue. im going to print that up and put that in with the pictures in other stuff.

[Z28pr0jekt]

316.293. Motor vehicle noise



(1) Definitions.--The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have the meanings respectively assigned to them in this subsection, except where the context otherwise requires:

(a) “dB A” means the composite abbreviation for the A-weighted sound level and the unit of sound level, the decibel.

(b) “Gross combination weight rating” or “GCWR” means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination vehicle.

(c) “Gross vehicle weight rating” or “GVWR” means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a single vehicle.

(d) “Sound level” means the A-weighted sound pressure level measured with fast response using an instrument complying with the specification for sound level meters of the American National Standards Institute, Inc., or its successor bodies, except that only A-weighting and fast dynamic response need be provided.

(e) “Department” means the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

(2) Operating noise limits.--No person shall operate or be permitted to operate a vehicle at any time or under any condition of roadway grade, load, acceleration, or deceleration in such a manner as to generate a sound level in excess of the following limit for the category of motor vehicle and applicable speed limit at a distance of 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel under measurement procedures established under subsection (3).



(c) For motor-driven cycles and any other motor vehicle not included in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b):


Sound level limit



Speed limit 35 mph or less

Before January 1, 1979

76 dB A

Speed limit over 35 mph

82 dB A

On or after January 1, 1979

72 dB A

Speed limit over 35 mph

79 dB A



(3) Measurement procedures.--The measurement procedures for determining compliance with this section shall be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.415(9), in cooperation with the department. Such regulations shall include the selection of measurement sites and measurement procedures and shall take into consideration accepted scientific and professional methods for the measurement of vehicular sound levels. The measurement procedures may include adjustment factors to be applied to the noise limit for measurement distances of other than 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel.

(4) Applicability.--This section applies to the total noise from a vehicle and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provisions of this chapter relating to motor vehicle mufflers for noise control.

(5) Noise abatement equipment modifications.--

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.

(6) Exempt vehicles.--The following are exempt from the operation of this act:

(a) Emergency vehicles operating as specified in s. 316.072(5)(a).

(b) Any motor vehicle engaged in a professional or amateur sanctioned, competitive sports event for which admission or entry fee is charged, or practice or time trials for such event.

(c) Any motor vehicle engaged in a manufacturer's engineering, design, or equipment test.

(d) Construction or agricultural equipment either on a job site or traveling on the highways.

(7) Violations.--A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

[95formula383lt1]

thank you again ryan. but is this going to be whats going to screw me in court... you had the same set up as i almost cc306 basicly stock headed, pacesetter lts, off road y, and a flowmaster muffler welded to the stock pipeing.

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.

[Z28pr0jekt]

thank you again ryan. but is this going to be whats going to screw me in court... you had the same set up as i almost cc306 basicly stock headed, pacesetter lts, off road y, and a flowmaster muffler welded to the stock pipeing.

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.

The court/cop has to prove your exhaust is higher than originally manufactured, not you. Don't forget, innocent until proven guilty.

[95formula383lt1]

The court/cop has to prove your exhaust is higher than originally manufactured, not you. Don't forget, innocent until proven guilty.

in which he couldnt do standing 2 feet away from the car? not to mention had to say not worry its on my video anyways from when i pull off. but for the most part he said he was using a recording device no a decible meter he had me hold the rpms at 2k, and then he tried to tell me "smell that no cat coverter ether" (stock tune cam and heads) it was just running rich from idleing so long.

[devonsZ28]

f##k the police


that is all

[MeanGreen94Z]

police here are worse than that... i had one jump my ass for the undertail on my bike once not too long ago... i didnt have a under tail it was stock lol

[95formula383lt1]

f##k the police


that is all

^awesome^, i agree they never been there for me only there at the right time to write my tickets. all my cars i had broken into even my house called them they figer printed never heard a word back, drunk driver hit my family doing 70 in a 30 when i was a kid, my mom now has a blocked artery in her head, a destroyed knee and has to take several naps a day and now the block artrey is giveing her heart problems now, the drunk driver got his licence suspended for 6 months and spent 3 days in jail, and got waited on first at the hospital, cops an court didnt do shit for us never have.

[Z28pr0jekt]

in which he couldnt do standing 2 feet away from the car? not to mention had to say not worry its on my video anyways from when i pull off. but for the most part he said he was using a recording device no a decible meter he had me hold the rpms at 2k, and then he tried to tell me "smell that no cat coverter ether" (stock tune cam and heads) it was just running rich from idleing so long.

Unless they made a new robocop that I wasn't aware of with a built in decibel meter there is no proof the car is louder than normal.

And the fact that the car was not physically inspected for a cat makes it too damn bad for them. It is illegal not to have a cat/egr/air equipment on the car but they once again need to prove it.

To be honest I would not bring a video into court because the sound of it could sway a judge against you. Let the cop use his video and then argue that it doesn't matter what the car sounds like, as his video proves nothing and the proper procedure in obtaining the decibels was not taken and therefor the evidence has no validity