Haggard-hawk

[JOATMON]

Hey Bud, awesome, thanks for sharing. Also, I always forget to log in to youtube, so I did and subscribed if it helps your channel.
Nolan

[harner]

I also sub'd, cool to see how many subscribers and views you are getting. I enjoy the voiceover tracks.

[Catmaigne]

Little update. I did a trackday at Pocono running the full 3.5mi mega course and ended up cording both of my front tires on the 2nd session (oops). I got maybe 6 trackdays worth of driving out these RT660s which wasn't bad considering I got them heavily discounted on clearance.

I got to drive my friends LS3 C6 for a couple laps which was a lot of fun! Car has long tubes, ST43 pads, Z06 oil cooler, and is lowered but still on the factory magride. Car felt very compliant and predictable even on crappy 300tw tires which was impressive. Not a whole lot of body roll either.

The cars in front are a C8 Z06 and some newer 911 (they all look the same to me).



A couple gripes... I couldn't heel-toe the thing for shit lol. I was trying to minimize my shifting because I couldn't really get my foot around onto the throttle pedal without feeling like I was gonna slip off the brake, but this is probably a skill issue on my part. Also, I wasn't a big fan of the steering or brake feel since both felt pretty overboosted and numb. The stock vette wheel is huge and squishy and the alignment (stock) could probably use way more caster. Underboosting the stock PS pump might help too. I was really surprised at how sharp and gokart-y the bird feels in comparison, but the vette would be 10000000x nicer to drive on the street.

Heading to Pittrace for the last time in a couple weeks. The owners of the track abruptly sold out to some company that's going to tear it down to build a lame AI datacenter. Track is officially closed at the end of the season. This is the future we all wanted, right???

[Z28pr0jekt]

Little update. I did a trackday at Pocono running the full 3.5mi mega course and ended up cording both of my front tires on the 2nd session (oops). I got maybe 6 trackdays worth of driving out these RT660s which wasn't bad considering I got them heavily discounted on clearance.

I got to drive my friends LS3 C6 for a couple laps which was a lot of fun! Car has long tubes, ST43 pads, Z06 oil cooler, and is lowered but still on the factory magride. Car felt very compliant and predictable even on crappy 300tw tires which was impressive. Not a whole lot of body roll either.

The cars in front are a C8 Z06 and some newer 911 (they all look the same to me).



A couple gripes... I couldn't heel-toe the thing for shit lol. I was trying to minimize my shifting because I couldn't really get my foot around onto the throttle pedal without feeling like I was gonna slip off the brake, but this is probably a skill issue on my part. Also, I wasn't a big fan of the steering or brake feel since both felt pretty overboosted and numb. The stock vette wheel is huge and squishy and the alignment (stock) could probably use way more caster. Underboosting the stock PS pump might help too. I was really surprised at how sharp and gokart-y the bird feels in comparison, but the vette would be 10000000x nicer to drive on the street.

Heading to Pittrace for the last time in a couple weeks. The owners of the track abruptly sold out to some company that's going to tear it down to build a lame AI datacenter. Track is officially closed at the end of the season. This is the future we all wanted, right???

Your friend should look into Jim Mero tune for the magride if he's going to stick with it. My C6 Z06 doesn't have magride so I went with Doug Rippie valved bilsteins. As for heel-toe, I don't have a ton of experience actually doing it but I've been trying to every now and again just to learn... I put SRP pedals on my Z because the stock aluminum have no grip if my shoes are even the slightest bit wet.... however what I've found for heel toe is that the gas pedal is so much further towards the firewall that my foot/ankle simply don't flex far enough to get a good stab on the gas pedal to blip the throttle without having to come off the brake.

[Catmaigne]

Your friend should look into Jim Mero tune for the magride if he's going to stick with it. My C6 Z06 doesn't have magride so I went with Doug Rippie valved bilsteins. As for heel-toe, I don't have a ton of experience actually doing it but I've been trying to every now and again just to learn... I put SRP pedals on my Z because the stock aluminum have no grip if my shoes are even the slightest bit wet.... however what I've found for heel toe is that the gas pedal is so much further towards the firewall that my foot/ankle simply don't flex far enough to get a good stab on the gas pedal to blip the throttle without having to come off the brake.

He's actually planning on selling the car after our trip to Pitt and is going to buy a C5 FRC with his dad for dedicated track duty. The C6 is just too nice of a car to tear into and ruin with track mods, plus it's also expensive to insure on track. The C5 should fit more tire and seems to have less oiling issues than a base C6, so it'll be a better beater with a couple mods.

Looks like AMT makes a throttle pedal extender for these cars: https://amtmotorsport.com/products/c...oreproductinfo
I guess this is what Mark Petronis is using and that guy is brutally fast.

[Z28pr0jekt]

He's actually planning on selling the car after our trip to Pitt and is going to buy a C5 FRC with his dad for dedicated track duty. The C6 is just too nice of a car to tear into and ruin with track mods, plus it's also expensive to insure on track. The C5 should fit more tire and seems to have less oiling issues than a base C6, so it'll be a better beater with a couple mods.

Looks like AMT makes a throttle pedal extender for these cars: https://amtmotorsport.com/products/c...oreproductinfo
I guess this is what Mark Petronis is using and that guy is brutally fast.

AMT makes some good stuff, I have their motor and diff/trans mounts on mine. My SRP pedals have some extension to them too but my issue isn't necessarily that the pedal isn't wide enough, it's that the pedal is so much further inwards versus the brake so I'm likely not on the brakes hard enough to see a closer distance to the gas pedal.

[Catmaigne]

AMT makes some good stuff, I have their motor and diff/trans mounts on mine. My SRP pedals have some extension to them too but my issue isn't necessarily that the pedal isn't wide enough, it's that the pedal is so much further inwards versus the brake so I'm likely not on the brakes hard enough to see a closer distance to the gas pedal.

Ah gotcha, that's why I made my 4th gen pedal extender with adjustable shims so you could set it at the perfect height. I would add something underneath the SRP to bring it closer, but I will say that what's most comfortable on the street is too high when you're deep into the brakes on track.

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[Z28pr0jekt]

Ah gotcha, that's why I made my 4th gen pedal extender with adjustable shims so you could set it at the perfect height. I would add something underneath the SRP to bring it closer, but I will say that what's most comfortable on the street is too high when you're deep into the brakes on track.

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That makes sense. Man I would love to learn HPDE but I only have the vette and my motorcycle and I just got the car back after being down for years haha. To be honest I'd be such a noob on the track and be so worried about other vehicles. I'd likely need some cooling mods, further suspension items, the larger dry sump tank (I've heard that the year models with my dry sump sometimes experience starvation issues at high Gs), obviously brakes/pads.

I'm hardcore saving for a house at the moment so while I plan to mod the vette further, I think that would be limited to only repairs that come up for the time being. I envy your experience doing this stuff.

[Catmaigne]

That makes sense. Man I would love to learn HPDE but I only have the vette and my motorcycle and I just got the car back after being down for years haha. To be honest I'd be such a noob on the track and be so worried about other vehicles. I'd likely need some cooling mods, further suspension items, the larger dry sump tank (I've heard that the year models with my dry sump sometimes experience starvation issues at high Gs), obviously brakes/pads.

I'm hardcore saving for a house at the moment so while I plan to mod the vette further, I think that would be limited to only repairs that come up for the time being. I envy your experience doing this stuff.

You'd be in the novice group which moves pretty slow so don't worry! I can assure you that most newbies are thinking the exact same thing, but it's not a race and everyone is just there to buzz around and have fun.

And I wouldn't bother modding the car as a total novice since you're gonna be super far from the limit anyway and probably won't drive the car hard enough to warrant it. The dry sump issue probably only manifests with slicks, a super fast driver, and specific tracks. The only things I would do would be better brake fluid, brake pads, and a slightly thicker oil. A decent DOT4 fluid is what you'd want and I got away with using cheap ATE Typ200 fluid for my first couple years of tracking, but eventually switched to Castrol SRF ($$$). The OEM pads are probably decent Brembo/Ferodo compound and are better than a lot of "street performance" options. If you don't have the OE pads, then the Powerstop Track Day pads should get the job done for cheap and tolerate a newbie driver. I also moved from stock 5w30s to Mobil 1 5w40 Euro since it's cheap and doesn't thin out anywhere as much as lower weight and non-euro oils. I'd imagine the oil temp might creep up, but it's very track dependent so I would just keep an eye on it and do a cool-down lap if it goes above 280F. If you do want to try tracking it, definitely buy track insurance. Just keep in mind that track insurance doesn't cover mechanical damage and usually doesn't cover track damage (the track will charge you if you dump fluid on the surface, bump the tire walls or armco, etc).

Alternatively, you could rent a track car just to try out the hobby. Pineview Run is close to Utica if you're still up there and their rentals are cheap. I've never been there (was supposed to go last month if not for rain), but it seems like a cool layout. I think this is the program you'd want, although I would email them to clarify that the "2hrs" listed is all spent driving or if it includes classroom time. I would also ask if the instruction is in-car since that would be ideal.
https://pineviewrun.com/buy-an-exper...t-the-trc-xpr1

[Z28pr0jekt]

You'd be in the novice group which moves pretty slow so don't worry! I can assure you that most newbies are thinking the exact same thing, but it's not a race and everyone is just there to buzz around and have fun.

And I wouldn't bother modding the car as a total novice since you're gonna be super far from the limit anyway and probably won't drive the car hard enough to warrant it. The dry sump issue probably only manifests with slicks, a super fast driver, and specific tracks. The only things I would do would be better brake fluid, brake pads, and a slightly thicker oil. A decent DOT4 fluid is what you'd want and I got away with using cheap ATE Typ200 fluid for my first couple years of tracking, but eventually switched to Castrol SRF ($$$). The OEM pads are probably decent Brembo/Ferodo compound and are better than a lot of "street performance" options. If you don't have the OE pads, then the Powerstop Track Day pads should get the job done for cheap and tolerate a newbie driver. I also moved from stock 5w30s to Mobil 1 5w40 Euro since it's cheap and doesn't thin out anywhere as much as lower weight and non-euro oils. I'd imagine the oil temp might creep up, but it's very track dependent so I would just keep an eye on it and do a cool-down lap if it goes above 280F. If you do want to try tracking it, definitely buy track insurance. Just keep in mind that track insurance doesn't cover mechanical damage and usually doesn't cover track damage (the track will charge you if you dump fluid on the surface, bump the tire walls or armco, etc).

Alternatively, you could rent a track car just to try out the hobby. Pineview Run is close to Utica if you're still up there and their rentals are cheap. I've never been there (was supposed to go last month if not for rain), but it seems like a cool layout. I think this is the program you'd want, although I would email them to clarify that the "2hrs" listed is all spent driving or if it includes classroom time. I would also ask if the instruction is in-car since that would be ideal.
https://pineviewrun.com/buy-an-exper...t-the-trc-xpr1

Appreciate the inputs! Forgot I still had Utica in my profile, I'm down in Jacksonville, FL. I run Continental Extreme Contact Force tires currently on the street (my understanding is they're like an endurance tire for track days but I needed some extra grip on the street and chose to try these instead of R888Rs), they seem to hook pretty good in second, not so much in 1st. I do have aftermarket pads but I can't remember which ones I put in (still the padlet style). I have the stability control disabled but still have traction control. I've heard GM put something out for LS engines to switch to the mobil 1 supercar which is basically like the Euro you mentioned. Pretty sure I have Mobil 1 5w30 in it currently.

I need to get around to the 1/4 track but I haven't ran on a track in 20 years so I have some weird nerves about it. I used to beat the daylights out of my Z28 but I'm somewhat tentative in the vette and I really don't play on the street anymore other than a short pull here and there (FL recently passed a super speeders law, anything over 100mph and some other situations is jail)

Is the track insurance like you pay for it for any given session you do as a one time thing?

Do you ever make your way down to FL to any track? If so, I'd love to connect sometime even if it's just to go watch and learn versus actually running.