LTx Gun Thread

**donfrye** · 03-28-2017, 11:23 PM

Two things I'm for the day:

First, I picked up a m&p 9c for 316.99 at the local LE shop. 3 mags and case. Great deal. I put half on it and used layaway so I didn't get in trouble at home.

Second is an ethics exercise just for opinions.
I bought a pt709 pocket/truck gun. It was 209. Put it in layaway at rural king and picked it up Saturday. Did all paperwork and they were freaking slammed busy. I get the nics proceed, the guy checks my gun, hands it to the walkout person, I take it from him at the door, drive 45 miles home and get it out to clean and out drops someone else's paperwork and the gun is a pt809 with a different serial # and costs about 100 more, is full size, etc.

Legally, I have no obligation to check my serial # or even return it. They have an obligation to correct the number, however if I do not return it.

Thoughts? Man up and return it or make them fix the serial # and keep the more pricey gun.

***SSlowBoat*** · 03-29-2017, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by donfrye

Two things I'm for the day:

First, I picked up a m&p 9c for 316.99 at the local LE shop. 3 mags and case. Great deal. I put half on it and used layaway so I didn't get in trouble at home.

Second is an ethics exercise just for opinions.
I bought a pt709 pocket/truck gun. It was 209. Put it in layaway at rural king and picked it up Saturday. Did all paperwork and they were freaking slammed busy. I get the nics proceed, the guy checks my gun, hands it to the walkout person, I take it from him at the door, drive 45 miles home and get it out to clean and out drops someone else's paperwork and the gun is a pt809 with a different serial # and costs about 100 more, is full size, etc.

Legally, I have no obligation to check my serial # or even return it. They have an obligation to correct the number, however if I do not return it.

Thoughts? Man up and return it or make them fix the serial # and keep the more pricey gun.

honesty and integrity weigh on my shoulders. your opinion may vary

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**superspirit** · 03-29-2017, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Tubby Z28

honesty and integrity weigh on my shoulders. your opinion may vary

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I'll second this! I believe in karma, if you return it you will be rewarded down the line if you dont, then you will lose down the line.

**shownomercy** · 03-29-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by donfrye

Two things I'm for the day:

First, I picked up a m&p 9c for 316.99 at the local LE shop. 3 mags and case. Great deal. I put half on it and used layaway so I didn't get in trouble at home.

Second is an ethics exercise just for opinions.
I bought a pt709 pocket/truck gun. It was 209. Put it in layaway at rural king and picked it up Saturday. Did all paperwork and they were freaking slammed busy. I get the nics proceed, the guy checks my gun, hands it to the walkout person, I take it from him at the door, drive 45 miles home and get it out to clean and out drops someone else's paperwork and the gun is a pt809 with a different serial # and costs about 100 more, is full size, etc.

Legally, I have no obligation to check my serial # or even return it. They have an obligation to correct the number, however if I do not return it.

Thoughts? Man up and return it or make them fix the serial # and keep the more pricey gun.

So you have a NICS in someone elses name with a gun that SN belongs to that NICS, in your possession? Maybe its the liberal utopia brainwashing I have but that sounds mildly bad news to me.

The store knows who you are regardless, so whoever got your gun and NICS is bound to start calling.

**donfrye** · 03-29-2017, 09:24 AM

No, the nics was in my name. I had a proceed. The assigned serial # was for the original gun. A transfer and associated nics inquiry has not been done for other party or associated gun.

I had already made up my mind to return it, btw. I just found it an interesting conversation about the ethical question between man and box store.

**donfrye** · 03-30-2017, 10:20 AM

Update-

I gathered all of my paperwork and called the store to explain this morning. The guy said that he wasnt sure what happened but the paperwork in their sales/report book said I had the correct serial number in my possession. He said they didnt even have my initial gun in stock so I should keep the one I have and wait to purchase the other if I was still interested.

Funny how things go sometimes.

***SSlowBoat*** · 03-30-2017, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by donfrye

Update-

I gathered all of my paperwork and called the store to explain this morning. The guy said that he wasnt sure what happened but the paperwork in their sales/report book said I had the correct serial number in my possession. He said they didnt even have my initial gun in stock so I should keep the one I have and wait to purchase the other if I was still interested.

Funny how things go sometimes.

if that's how it's documented, then so be it.

congrats on the new purchase

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***popo8*** · 03-30-2017, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by donfrye

Two things I'm for the day:

First, I picked up a m&p 9c for 316.99 at the local LE shop. 3 mags and case. Great deal. I put half on it and used layaway so I didn't get in trouble at home.

Second is an ethics exercise just for opinions.
I bought a pt709 pocket/truck gun. It was 209. Put it in layaway at rural king and picked it up Saturday. Did all paperwork and they were freaking slammed busy. I get the nics proceed, the guy checks my gun, hands it to the walkout person, I take it from him at the door, drive 45 miles home and get it out to clean and out drops someone else's paperwork and the gun is a pt809 with a different serial # and costs about 100 more, is full size, etc.

Legally, I have no obligation to check my serial # or even return it. They have an obligation to correct the number, however if I do not return it.

Thoughts? Man up and return it or make them fix the serial # and keep the more pricey gun.

If u dont return it u will just get jamned up when they figure it out... or if the other person reports it stolen.

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***popo8*** · 03-30-2017, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by donfrye

Update-

I gathered all of my paperwork and called the store to explain this morning. The guy said that he wasnt sure what happened but the paperwork in their sales/report book said I had the correct serial number in my possession. He said they didnt even have my initial gun in stock so I should keep the one I have and wait to purchase the other if I was still interested.

Funny how things go sometimes.

Good Karma...

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**donfrye** · 03-30-2017, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by popo8

If u dont return it u will just get jamned up when they figure it out... or if the other person reports it stolen.

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I couldn't have gotten jammed either way but had always planned on calling them. The responsibility falls on the ffl holder to verify the firearm has no ncic Records and the buyer is a nics proceed.

Worked out right in the end.