2016 Shootout Rules and Date open discussion

[popo8]

I wasnt meaning to be disrespectful. Ive gotten plenty of that from certain people. But everything i said was facts. Right? Im sorry that for some reason you have this thing against me ever since i was trying to sell a shortblock and being an "unmotivated seller" because i didnt push it on someone that was looking for something else specifically. Im not trying to be "banned". Ill just continue here trying to avoid any confrontation with you like i have the past two years with a bad taste in my mouth and keep to myself. And very seldom here in the past year over things said as well. Again, hope this isnt my one more to get me banned, but felt i should at least answer

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Only since you asked, will I answer, however this is the end of the discussion. No, not everything you said was fact. Your accusation of me thinking there was "embezzling" was not "fact." That is something that your group came up with, and Im not sure from where. With that being said, no this is not your one more and banned. I have done everything I can to save you from being banned by me, and am glad you opted to stick around. You dont need to like me, talk to me, respond to my posts, and as long as you are not disrespectful, that is all totally fine. Glad you chose to stick around. Enjoy the forum and the incredible community that we have here.

[shownomercy]

Lettuce be cereal here, how can one honestly avoid the scourge of a poster called @popo8 ?

Shit ain't possibru.

[popo8]

Lettuce be cereal here, how can one honestly avoid the scourge of a poster called @popo8 ?

Shit ain't possibru.

U know... to think there was a time when I would see ur posts and think... THIS GUY IS A DICK... I never thought the day would come where I could say ur posts almost always make me laugh.

Thanku.

LTXtech.com IS my drug...

[green96ta]

There is something that I would like to address as far as the shootout. (Getting back on track!)

The weight penalty for having a 4L80e.

So everyone knows I'm going to do the 24x on the shop car. I am also going to swap a 4l80e, because it is just crazy not to. However, with it being a stronger transmission-it also has its own weight and time penalty built in. It is PROVEN to take more power to turn the 80e as opposed to the 60e. Which is a penalty in and of its self. Moreover, the 80e weighs more than the 60e already!

So there are two reasons why I think the penalty should be removed. First because of the two points above. Secondly, because the 4L80e can be ran by an LT1 PCM.

I understand why the 24x carries a weight penalty, it is a better system.

But with the 80e its only a upgrade in the sense of what power it can handle, but if you go straight from a working 60e to an 80e and keep everything the same you will lose time and power. So the weight penalty adds insult to injury

Plus if I run in extreme street, my car will have to weigh 3750 with the 80e and the 24x which is more than the car weighs stock weight with me in it.

So currently I need a ( @popo8 Stop Reading here, and skip past the comma.) dead body for my trunk, or a willing LTxer to try and fit in the trunk while I run in a FULL WEIGHT TRANS AM with added weight.

[dawdaw]

question... with turbo and supercharged guys , they way you limit there power is by sizing correct?... why not do that in the extreme street power adder class and limit every guy to a certain jet size? seems like no one wants to pony up money for a direct port, or most don't need one for a smaller shot but i run one and because of that my stock gm baby heads, stock unported intake, mild 550 lift hydraulic cam, stock ecu, down to a factory dented up oil pan has to run modpa with cars that have way way more combo.

although my combo runs good for what it is (not trying to stroke my own shaft) seems the logical thing thing to do because you guys do it for turbo and supercharged guys , is just simply limit the jet to lets say a 150 or 200 shot or whatever.. direct ports DONT make any more power... ALL it comes down to is DISTRIBUTION and when your talking spray , distriubtion is very important from melting down an engine.

opinons, thoughts?

[dawdaw]

There is something that I would like to address as far as the shootout. (Getting back on track!)

The weight penalty for having a 4L80e.

So everyone knows I'm going to do the 24x on the shop car. I am also going to swap a 4l80e, because it is just crazy not to. However, with it being a stronger transmission-it also has its own weight and time penalty built in. It is PROVEN to take more power to turn the 80e as opposed to the 60e. Which is a penalty in and of its self. Moreover, the 80e weighs more than the 60e already!

So there are two reasons why I think the penalty should be removed. First because of the two points above. Secondly, because the 4L80e can be ran by an LT1 PCM.

I understand why the 24x carries a weight penalty, it is a better system.

But with the 80e its only a upgrade in the sense of what power it can handle, but if you go straight from a working 60e to an 80e and keep everything the same you will lose time and power. So the weight penalty adds insult to injury

Plus if I run in extreme street, my car will have to weigh 3750 with the 80e and the 24x which is more than the car weighs stock weight with me in it.

So currently I need a ( @popo8 Stop Reading here, and skip past the comma.) dead body for my trunk, or a willing LTxer to try and fit in the trunk while I run in a FULL WEIGHT TRANS AM with added weight.

stuff shownomercy with a box full of dildos in the rear and you will make weight! lol!

[waltsfastz]

question... with turbo and supercharged guys , they way you limit there power is by sizing correct?... why not do that in the extreme street power adder class and limit every guy to a certain jet size? seems like no one wants to pony up money for a direct port, or most don't need one for a smaller shot but i run one and because of that my stock gm baby heads, stock unported intake, mild 550 lift hydraulic cam, stock ecu, down to a factory dented up oil pan has to run modpa with cars that have way way more combo.

although my combo runs good for what it is (not trying to stroke my own shaft) seems the logical thing thing to do because you guys do it for turbo and supercharged guys , is just simply limit the jet to lets say a 150 or 200 shot or whatever.. direct ports DONT make any more power... ALL it comes down to is DISTRIBUTION and when your talking spray , distriubtion is very important from melting down an engine.

opinons, thoughts?

IF you do this it will have to be limited to a .XXX nitrous jet. Different venders 150 or 200 shot is different from each other. With the set nitrous jet you wouldn't have to worry about low or high psi nitrous fuel systems. This wouldn't work for us direct port guys though or would have to have a difrent set number. Don't matter to me in extreme street cause I cant run in that class anyway.

[DMBlack]

Nitrous cars in the ES P/A class is currently limited by only running a single nozzle or plate kit. Where Mod gets to run a direct port.

[dawdaw]

Guess I'll buy a plate then. Thanks for the answer

[ZOHAN]

There is something that I would like to address as far as the shootout. (Getting back on track!)

The weight penalty for having a 4L80e.

So everyone knows I'm going to do the 24x on the shop car. I am also going to swap a 4l80e, because it is just crazy not to. However, with it being a stronger transmission-it also has its own weight and time penalty built in. It is PROVEN to take more power to turn the 80e as opposed to the 60e. Which is a penalty in and of its self. Moreover, the 80e weighs more than the 60e already!

So there are two reasons why I think the penalty should be removed. First because of the two points above. Secondly, because the 4L80e can be ran by an LT1 PCM.

I understand why the 24x carries a weight penalty, it is a better system.

But with the 80e its only a upgrade in the sense of what power it can handle, but if you go straight from a working 60e to an 80e and keep everything the same you will lose time and power. So the weight penalty adds insult to injury

Plus if I run in extreme street, my car will have to weigh 3750 with the 80e and the 24x which is more than the car weighs stock weight with me in it.

So currently I need a ( @popo8 Stop Reading here, and skip past the comma.) dead body for my trunk, or a willing LTxer to try and fit in the trunk while I run in a FULL WEIGHT TRANS AM with added weight.

I agree with this. And I dont have one. Never really agreed with doing something stronger but slower to move you up a class

question... with turbo and supercharged guys , they way you limit there power is by sizing correct?... why not do that in the extreme street power adder class and limit every guy to a certain jet size? seems like no one wants to pony up money for a direct port, or most don't need one for a smaller shot but i run one and because of that my stock gm baby heads, stock unported intake, mild 550 lift hydraulic cam, stock ecu, down to a factory dented up oil pan has to run modpa with cars that have way way more combo.

although my combo runs good for what it is (not trying to stroke my own shaft) seems the logical thing thing to do because you guys do it for turbo and supercharged guys , is just simply limit the jet to lets say a 150 or 200 shot or whatever.. direct ports DONT make any more power... ALL it comes down to is DISTRIBUTION and when your talking spray , distriubtion is very important from melting down an engine.

opinons, thoughts?

Keep it up and youll be in outlaw next year so you wont have to worry about it.


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