gun control......

[gmpowered]

I can't believe the anti gun idiots think this will save any lives. They use the excuse that the m855 in a pistol will penetrate body armor is a joke. Obviously the idiots at the ATF must not have ever heard of a Thompson contender. They have some 40+ different caliber barrels available and most are rifle calibers larger than the .223/5.56 Hell just think what a 30/06AP would do to body armor. Lets not forget the S&W 500 with a 350gr bullet it has 2,250 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. The m855 only has 1,250 ft/lbs at the muzzle.

ok rant over.
have a nice day.

That's the whole point of the ban, if a pea shooter can defeat body armor what will something bigger do? Ban that too.
You don't even need armor piercing to defeat "body armor" most 100 + year old hunting cartridges will defeat most armor.

[SSlowBoat]

They dropped the ban for now

[SS RRR]

There it is!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/at...wMzGbs.twitter

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives on Thursday raised new concerns about surplus military ammo used in popular AR-15 rifles and pistols just days after pulling back on a proposal to ban the ammo because it could threaten police safety.
In a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing, ATF Director B. Todd Jones said all types of the 5.56 military-style ammo used by shooters pose a threat to police as more people buy the AR-15-style pistols.

"Any 5.56 round" is "a challenge for officer safety," he said. Jones asked lawmakers to help in a review of a 1986 bill written to protect police from so-called "cop killer" rounds that largely exempted rifle ammo like the 5.56 because it has been used by target shooters, not criminals.
His agency's move to ban the 5.56 M855 version was condemned by the National Rifle Association and majorities in the House and Senate and as a result was pulled back though not abandoned. At the hearing Jones said that nearly 90,000 comments on the proposal were received, many negative.
As a result, he said that the ATF will suspend rewriting the "framework" used to exempt armor piercing ammo from sale or use. "It probably isn't going to happen any time soon," he said. Jones also said, "We are not going to move forward." The NRA and some 52 senators said they feared that the ATF move was an Obama administration bid for gun control targeted at the AR-15.


Here is where we find out if this congress is worth anything and will stand up and do away with this kind of bullshittery.

[shownomercy]

Well, at first it doesn't make sense, no one goes about killing cops with rifles these days, can't think of the last instance since maybe that crazy gunfight in CA at the bank? But then, when you think of what a militia would be fighting the tyranny with and shooting "cops" in a rebellion, it makes sense. *tin foil hat*

[SS RRR]

It's more about the easy concealment of AR-15 "pistols" which has an alleged concern. Banning all AR ammunition will supposedly make police safer even though statistics show little-to-no criminal activity involves that specific rifle or caliber. It's one of those issues of where do you draw the line. The Ferguson cops were shot by a pistol at over 100 yards away. Will there now be new found concern regarding pistol ammunition being a danger to police?

[95albinobird]

It's more about the easy concealment of AR-15 "pistols" which has an alleged concern. Banning all AR ammunition will supposedly make police safer even though statistics show little-to-no criminal activity involves that specific rifle or caliber. It's one of those issues of where do you draw the line. The Ferguson cops were shot by a pistol at over 100 yards away. Will there now be new found concern regarding pistol ammunition being a danger to police?

a pistol from 100 yards away that's good shooting they missed there calling...assholes!!

[shownomercy]

a pistol from 100 yards away that's good shooting they missed there calling...assholes!!

I would call that a spray and pray that got some asshole lucky.

[popo8]

... no one goes about killing cops with rifles these days, can't think of the last instance since ...

Eric Frien just killed 2 PA Troopers "long distance" with a rifle.

[popo8]

... The Ferguson cops were shot by a pistol at over 100 yards away....

Did they confirm that was a pistol?

[shownomercy]

Eric Frien just killed 2 PA Troopers "long distance" with a rifle.

Forgot about that wacko, but, for the common gang banger, you won't see them packing an AR15 I would imagine.