Camaro FMIC mounting?

**CamaroZGuy** · 03-28-2013, 08:21 AM

any one got pics of how you got the intercoolers mounted? i have some ideas of how i am thinking of mounting it, but pics and ideas will help.

**shownomercy** · 03-28-2013, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by CamaroZGuy

any one got pics of how you got the intercoolers mounted? i have some ideas of how i am thinking of mounting it, but pics and ideas will help.

I will snap a pic or two of how mine is mounted after work

**BoostedTurd** · 03-29-2013, 08:10 AM

subscribed. Installing mine soon.
With a Vortech will I have to delete my ABS module?

**CALL911** · 03-29-2013, 10:03 AM

I can't pull up the pics to see if the links still show them (gov computer), but this should have a little info on how I did mine.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/forc...cooler-452860/

Basically I wanted the use of FMIC without hacking my front bumper all up. I used an air dam to direct air up to my FMIC, and the only thing I took out of the front bumper was the plastic behind my fog lights, so it still looks factory but still gets air up to the FMIC.

I know some have done the FMIC with the FMIC laying flat. I for one never believed this to be a good idea. Sure, it will be easier to mount and some believe it gets good air, but the science behind it does not prove it. You need air flowing THROUGH the FMIC, not over it. It just won't cool the same, and your IAT's will be hot. The absolute best way would be to hack the front bumper and get maximum air flowing through the FMIC. Mine does well not being hacked up with my air dam directing air to it, although I know it would be better if I had even more air going through there. The other thing to consider is how hot your IAT's will get on your setup. A turbo spooling 20-30 psi of boost will net hotter IAT's than say a small supercharger. For the boost level I had, and combined with my meth injection, my FMIC setup seems to combine with the others to keep my IAT's nice and cool.

FWIW, when you use an FMIC you will probably loose a couple pounds of boost. Also, meth injection will do more cooling than the FMIC will. Most (myself included) would probably be fine with JUST the meth injection.

Hope this helps.

***Fastbird*** · 03-29-2013, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by CALL911

I know some have done the FMIC with the FMIC laying flat. I for one never believed this to be a good idea. Sure, it will be easier to mount and some believe it gets good air, but the science behind it does not prove it. You need air flowing THROUGH the FMIC, not over it. It just won't cool the same, and your IAT's will be hot.

This doesn't happen much, but I completely disagree with you on this point. Mounting the FMIC under the nose like I formerly had it, and others have run it, forces air through the intercooler just like standing it up. The air is being forced up and through via the air dam. The air is still going through the intercooler in this configuration, not just over it as you're thinking. HOWEVER, as found on my car and a couple of others, the intercooler is a BIG hindrance to airflow going through the condenser and radiator. As in your car will overheat. It simply slowed the air flow down too much coming through to allow sufficient force to cool the radiator and coolant temps down.

**shownomercy** · 03-29-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by CALL911

The other thing to consider is how hot your IAT's will get on your setup. A turbo spooling 20-30 psi of boost will net hotter IAT's than say a small supercharger. For the boost level I had, and combined with my meth injection, my FMIC setup seems to combine with the others to keep my IAT's nice and cool.

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Really?

Cause my truck at 20psi sees ambient temps as IAT when cruising. Thats a gross over statement. Just saying

Pics of my mess..

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1364601372
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1364601389
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1364601389

Yes the bumper support is half painted lol

***Fastbird*** · 03-29-2013, 07:18 PM

I think Ben was talking about when under boost, not a cruise/part throttle off boost stuff.

**shownomercy** · 03-29-2013, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Fastbird

I think Ben was talking about when under boost, not a cruise/part throttle off boost stuff.

Thats fine, but a large turbo will be much more efficient at higher boost than a smaller one being pushed hard and out of its efficiency range. So to just say at 22psi you will have high IAT's is silly, like I was saying my truck doesn't. Granted its a diesel but still. Boost is also highly dependent on how restrictive the intake/heads are, so meh.

**CALL911** · 03-29-2013, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Fastbird

This doesn't happen much, but I completely disagree with you on this point. Mounting the FMIC under the nose like I formerly had it, and others have run it, forces air through the intercooler just like standing it up. The air is being forced up and through via the air dam. The air is still going through the intercooler in this configuration, not just over it as you're thinking. HOWEVER, as found on my car and a couple of others, the intercooler is a BIG hindrance to airflow going through the condenser and radiator. As in your car will overheat. It simply slowed the air flow down too much coming through to allow sufficient force to cool the radiator and coolant temps down.

Yeah, I know you and I don't see eye to eye on this one. I do not believe the air flowing along side of it will cool it the same as air flowing through it. It's like driving with your window down and feeling the air go by and comparing it to the air you would get if you drove the same speed and stuck your head out in the wind.

At any rate I agree it will take away from your radiator.

Originally Posted by Fastbird

I think Ben was talking about when under boost, not a cruise/part throttle off boost stuff.

Yes. In high boost applications. IATs aren't too much of a big deal cruising around not in boost.