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So, I just learned tonight that talks are out there that the new C7s will have their engine dubbed the LT1 for the NA, and LT4 for the supercharged version....
Will we be making accommodations if this is true??? This may be that thing to get us into LSX categories (meaning comperable to the popularity of LSXs), since it will be new, and will most prob be used for at least 5-10 years...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...more-info.html
i don't see us being allowed in ls events. we are to old on an architecture for them.
To be honest i don't like them being called LT1/LT4. there not being called that to pay homage to us. we got the LT1 call sign. because GM was honoring the gen1 LT1's and we shared similar architecture to them. sorry for ramble don't like people stealing my motors name or honor. lol
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Originally Posted by MeanTA
I didnt mean to sound like I wanted us in LS events... Im comparing a new and growing platform by the name that we use.... being a benifit to us, to make an additional section and now have an additional platform that is not the "dying breed" that people are not making products for... but rather that sponsors will be anxious to join us because this new LT"X" will be the next hot thing....
I saw where it was that the confusion in my initial statement came from... I added a clarification statement to it.
ow ok. if it means for our motors getting put back on the map. that would be awesome.
mabe a company would get excited and build us a new block???
well with how the LS plat form is going, it was time for them to make a new tag since i think LS1-9 are already used.
but i have to agree on not liking the idea, first there will more then likely be no resemblance to the LT or SBC platform and second, i really don't want the "other" crowd invading this site thinking its for the GenV "LT's" (if that is what they will be) and turning this site in to the "other" place.
but after doing some looking, i cant find any thing that actually says it will be "LT".
“The Gen-V small block is an all-new, state-of-the-art engine family that will offer more efficiency and refinement than any other small block in its more than half-century of production,” said Jordan Lee, chief engineer, in a press release. “For customers, that will mean cars and trucks that deliver more while using less gas to do it."
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/first-peak...-v-v8-from-gm/
Even if its just the site being put back on the map... some benifit may be sponsor products for us... but more importantly...events like the shootout could have another class...where vendors would want to come out (even if only focusing on the new gens)....but our evens would grow... could have bigger financial backing... more events... even if our old school stuff rides the coat tails of the new ones... we benifit one way or another..... and now when ls guys have probs with their cars we can tell them the LT1/LT4 MOD response...lol
Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com
I take full credit for this discovery :)
Yes things like the shootout could be crazy with this new platform...
yes... credit is all urs bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilOpti94
Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com
Didn't realize there were folks that didn't know this info yet. If you guys want to see what the C7 looks like go look at Jalopnik's renderings... :thumbsup: Although I thought the other engine was LT5 not LT4, either way the LT1 is definitely "back."
Hopefully GM will do the right thing and offer oil catch cans with these new direct injected engines or else the DI LT1 will suffer the "red headed step child" fate as the 90's LT1.
PS - Everything I stated in this post is rumor mill information that's readily available by reading websites like Jalopnik, GMI, etc. Nothing in my post is confidential information.
I agree with Larry 100%. This could be a very good thing for the site. It will put us in the limelight one way or another and like stated the more interest in the site and sponsors we get the bigger our events and the more recognition we get the more interest we should be able to get for our "old" platform.
Keep in mind, Im by no means making any decisions.... just creating discussion... thoughts....etc.
Don't get me wrong. i thank it will be great for the site. the lack of platform support is just a sore subject with me. it would be great if manufactures take notice and realized this platform is still around. and that it may be "old school" but still going strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badbird_96
like that thread the other day where a guy is putting down almost 1,000 HP. with a stock block!
Im hoping it will get people to realize its a awesome platform to dive into.
Considering we already have the site name, I really think we should run with it and embrace it. Some site is going to have to fill the niche, we already have the name.... let's do it IMHO.
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Originally Posted by meissen
Thats the way I feel... I think it could make us explode.....
And if not the only thing we have to invest is time. So its not really going to cost anything to test the waters. Plus a shirt with ltx cars and new vettes could look awesome.
Here's some interesting reads on the new small block!
http://blogs.popularhotrodding.com/6...w-small-block/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_cycle
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Originally Posted by dzltek
When I opened THAT^^^ I got:
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Atkinson cycle
The Atkinson cycle engine is a type of internal combustion engine invented by James Atkinson in 1882. The Atkinson cycle is designed to provide efficiency at the expense of power density, and is used in some modern hybrid electric applications.
Design
Ideal thermodynamic cycle
Modern Atkinson cycle engines
Rotary Atkinson cycle engine
Vehicles using Atkinson cycle engines
Summary of the patent
See also
References
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IT HURT MY HEAD.
I could see and embrace this:
Original tribute small block LT1 style block......except aluminum instead of iron...
Capability to be stroked into the 400's to compete with the LSX's
LT1 Reverse Flow Cooling and higher compression ratio and higher low end torque numbers
LSX individual Coil-Pack Ignition Platform
LSX Style PCM to support the higher HP builds and better tuning
I think if they did all of this, the new LTX motors will be monsters! All the strengths of OUR LT1, without the weaknesses! :)
If what the articles are saying about the new motors is true, that's going to be a really radical push rod motor. A direct injected small block? Yes please!
And just think about it.. a new motor, sharing the name... for a whole new generation of vehicles to start getting it... and we have the NAME....
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Originally Posted by popo8
I think it would be entirely appropriate, considering every LTx motor to date has been either a giant leap technologically or a radical departure from the norm or both (including the true redheaded stepchild, the LT5). I definitely think a dual cam in block variable valve timed, modified combustion stroke, direct injected small block v8 would be perfectly befitting of the LT1 moniker, considering nothing like it has been done before, and especially since it is rumored to be even more powerful than the current base motor with less displacement.
The direct injection opens all new doors for their motors. But if the direct injection V6 motors GM is currently making is any indication, GM MUST fix their PCV issues or include an oil catch can with these DI motors or else they're going to have even more serious problems. 1 quart of oil consumption every 500-1000 miles is not normal in my book, but within spec in GM's book. BMW is learning the hard way about direct injection while their dealership technicians are tearing apart heads to hand clean the oil sludge off of the valves. That's the biggest problem with crappy PCV systems and direct injection. With the standard injection we have now, the fuel flows over the valves and helps clean sludge and grime off of the valves. With direct injection, that gas is going right into the combustion chamber and hence nothing to clean the valves off... If you have a lot of oil going into the intake - which you definitely do with GM's crappy PCV system - you're going to get sludge build up and you will lose power over time unless you invest in an oil catch can or run Seafoam products through your engine on a fairly regular basis.
I think GM needs to stop reusing names of shit. The design team must be a bunch of unoriginal bastards. I dont think it will help or hurt our platform. Tho everytime you say lt1 you will have to explain I have the old one but not the really old one. They will have the ltxshootout and we will be allowed to be in the car show for museum type qualitys.
So you don't feel that added intrest in the same name (whether reminiscent of its predecessor) will help to put the NAME back on the map?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
And if so, do you feel that our engines being named after its 1970s predecessor was a bad move?
I believe every engine should have its own name. Did we put the old school tl1 on the map? No. Hoping to ride another engines coat tails is sad.
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
Pretty sure the old school eng didnt have a website
GM brass gave our engine its call sign to honor the original LT1. Because at the time it was the ultimate sbc. And when we hit the streets we was the ultimate sbc for the generation.
I don't see how the new LT1 should qualify for the ls competition. its a total different animal. and in many ways will make the ls platform "obsolete". based on design and function.
Ok, well with all of the upgrades to what is being referred to as "the LS competition" would you still say the new motor has that much in common with the LS motors?Quote:
Originally Posted by MeanTA
meAgain hoping the site gets more traffic because the new motor has the same name is sad! That's like the ugly girl in school hoping she gets attention by wearing the same clothes as the cute popular girl. We have a small community and its only gonna get smaller with time. Thinkin otherwise is delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by popo8
meAgain hoping the site gets more traffic because the new motor has the same name is sad! That's like the ugly girl in school hoping she gets attention by wearing the same clothes as the cute popular girl. We have a small community and its only gonna get smaller with time. Thinkin otherwise is delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by popo8
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
I think to say definitely say ONE WAY or ANOTHER is what is delusional... after all, none of us here are Miss Cleo....
Had the same debate with another member on the facebook page... there is one thing to have a good debate about something, but no need to put down the thoughts of others, especially with any type of name calling no matter how "soft."
Because you believe in one thing... and someone else believes in the opposite, does not make either of you right or wrong, so who are you to call the other thoughts WRONG?
Name calling?....
Has nothing to do with being Mrs Cleo. Our cars are getting older and not holding much value. More and more are getting scrapped. We are a dying breed of car. It's a nitch platform. I like it. You like it. And a handfull of others. Sorry if I don't sing the ltx fight song every morning but I do enjoy beating cars that should beat me. That's where my pride is.
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
ITs fine, I respect your angle, and you dont need to sing the LTX fight song everymorning....
Thank You for your enthusiastic support of what so many of us are so passionate about...
*delusional is "soft" name calling....
we'll be the weird sbc guys with a front mount distributor
We always have been... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by jjdynomite
Wait, wait, wait..... what's the ltx fight song?
I know. must've missed it myself. gotta tell Jesse there's one! lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by firebird_1995
lol i see a lot of mad ls owners in the coming future. and that puts a smile on my face.Attachment 11723
The LTX platform is a awesome design. And percentage wise we lay waste to more ls1's then they do t us. We are putting down close to triple digits at the wheels. with 20 year old blocks, and doing so reliable. I am a strong suporter of getting big bore blocks. if we had a aftermarket block. i thank more people would use our platform. its great design but since we aint the new kids on the block we suffer. And soon the LSX platform will experiance it to some degree. because they will now be a old design.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
I love the LTX platform and will own and support it till my last breath.
And i sing the LTX fight song evertime i drive my car. its 3 fast revs followed by a short idle the 3 more revs. in a galoping rythem:)