LPP Vendor Question

[Formula218]

I'd be defensive too when you all but had him physically nailed to a cross. He explained himself many times on the same issues and then you don't believe him and want written proof. When XS backs his story with the same thing in writing, they want physical proof. Sadly, even with a picture of the manufacturing facility with a signed notary's stamp and a handshake from the governor, it would be the same result. LPP's was never gonna win in this witch hunt after it got 7 pages in before he could reply. Also, both sides have apologized for the miscommunications and accusations so its time for this to die.

Then you'd be an equally terrible business owner lol. I didn't nail anyone to shit! i just read the thread and pointed out how glad i was that I'm not tangled up in this BS too. Maybe in the future it would be a good idea to clear things up when the costumer asked the first time rather than waiting for them to have to make a post on a public forum and allowing it to get to 7 pages???

if everything is figured out then there should be no reason to kill the thread, leave it for other to read so they are clear on what they're buying.

[J33pBr0]

304 stainless overseas headers....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RACING-STAIN...dcbc53&vxp=mtr

[shownomercy]

One post? Welcome to the forum!

[Dan]

Those are not even XS-Power.. jesus christ.


I talked with Joe at XS-Power over the phone today. ALL XS-Power LT1, ls1, c3, c5 and high end are made from 321 stainless steel. There are made here in the USA. XS-power headers are not the same as LPPs (iirc). They will not be telling me or anybody else exactly where the manufacturing place is, just that it is in Delkab County, GA. He told me if you guys want to know where it is so bad, you can find out on your own time. It is public record, go ahead and find it.
He understands the confusion with OP. The reason they sent him his headers in a XS-Power box is because they have left over boxes from over the years. If you know anything about business, it costs money to buy more boxes. Recycling is a thing nowadays.
They put their tags on things because they want to get their name out there. The only shit made in china is the import/foreign car products. Most of their overseas product is made from 409.
He also told me they told NOBODY that their headers are made from 304. The only piece made from 304 is the flange.

Case closed boys. Can we all be friends again?

[shownomercy]

Yawn, can't comprehend why its a super squirrel secret about the USA making part.

[95 blackbird]

I don't post here very much but I feel its time for me to chime in now. I purchased a set of LPP headers last spring. Prior to me purchasing these there were numerous posts by Carl at LPP selling headers at a discount for feedback by the purchasers on how they fit. Does this need to be tweaked here, does that need to be tweaked there, do they hit here do they rub there, ect..... after the feedback from those purchasers Carl adjusted the headers to best fit our beloved LT1 f bodies.
Now I too had questions when my headers showed up at my door with XS Power tags And stickers in an XS Power box. That issue was addressed last year and I reserved judgement until I got the headers on the car. I did do an LS steering shaft (all cars are different) other than that fitment was excellent. Welds were beautiful, appearance was top notch, ground clearance is second to none.
Bottom line..... am I glad I bought these headers.. hell yes. Would I buy them again today? Damn straight I would.
Try and find a header with this fitment of this quality for this price.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

[LPP]

Would I buy them again today? Damn straight I would.
Try and find a header with this fitment of this quality for this price.

Thank you. I have worked hard at these items and the LS1. I am sorry if I was defensive if that is not considered good in peoples mind.
I understand all the issues at hand and I will rectify my website to make it clearer for future buyers. I again apologize to Darknight for the issues created.
The header post above - from that company on ebay - you can see is crap welds - NOTHING at all like our headers. Thank you.

[5POINT7]

They will not be telling me or anybody else exactly where the manufacturing place is, just that it is in Delkab County, GA. He told me if you guys want to know where it is so bad, you can find out on your own time. It is public record, go ahead and find it.

This made me lol. You would think they'd want to clear the air, but as usual no U.S.A proof, besides their word.

Strano has his springs made in Germany by a company to his specs. They have his logo on them, so you know your getting his springs that he designed, not ones they mass produce. It's hard to believe that LPP went through all this trouble to correct the flaws of these headers and they don't even have his company logo on them. I don't understand how guys have been ok with this. How do we know LPP didn't just tell them what corrections to make, and he is just overcharging for a mass produced header, that xs makes.

If your paying a company to make your headers for your business, your name should be on them. What am I missing here? I don't buy the whole "to get xs name out there b.s." IIRC LPP said he spent a ton of money to get these made, I sure wouldn't be spending that kind of money if my name wasn't on them. Wouldn't you want your name getting out there, and build your business. After all your spending all this money and time, all to have a company slap their logo on and take credit. Doesn't make sense.

[Badazz 97 TA]

Some of it does seem fishy. I was a bit taken back when I saw the different label on my "LPP" headers. They looked good and they don't leak. They do what there supposed to do. It's a stainless steel header. Whatever......

I was a little disappointed not having a LPP label on them since I bought them trying to help his company and stay away from the bigger name brands. The label on the y pipe was welded upside down. Lol.They fit decent, took some hammering but they work and look good. It's a 20year old car. It's not a Ferrari, it's a damn muscle car made in Canada. Lol

I wish things weren't so fishy sounding. I really hope my money stayed in America. That was another selling point so I really hope it is true. I guess only some people will truly know.

[Formula218]

Some of it does seem fishy. I was a bit taken back when I saw the different label on my "LPP" headers. They looked good and they don't leak. They do what there supposed to do. It's a stainless steel header. Whatever......

I was a little disappointed not having a LPP label on them since I bought them trying to help his company and stay away from the bigger name brands. The label on the y pipe was welded upside down. Lol.They fit decent, took some hammering but they work and look good. It's a 20year old car. It's not a Ferrari, it's a damn muscle car made in Canada. Lol

I wish things weren't so fishy sounding. I really hope my money stayed in America. That was another selling point so I really hope it is true. I guess only some people will truly know.

That's just dumb. You should be getting what you paid for. If you ordered a set of bigs/littles from Weld and they sent you a set of Rotas you'd be cool with it as long as they hold air? if you ordered a C7 and they delivered a fox body with a corvette logo in the grill it's all good, it still drives. how about you hit up POPO to order a LTx shirt and he sends you a LS1tech shirt, don't sweat it, it was made by the same place they just forgot to put our logo on it. FOH with that nonsense lol. Maybe i just have a low tolerance for fuckery.