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    I know, I read the story. I'm sure he'll provide that info seeing as this has caused such an ordeal.
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    Another email from XSpower...
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    Yes, I understand. That was not my intention with anything I said. I ordered these headers and after they arrived I became extremely concerned with what I bought. There was no definitive documentation or explanation and I couldn't get any answers. I was worried that I had been taken advantage of and I did not know what else to do based on what I found. I tried my best to be civil and open minded and made every effort I could think of to not outright accuse, condemn or make presumptuous conclusions by saying "I wonder, I think, I might have, it's possible," etc. Yes, I understand the point of insinuation but I thought that was the best way to address my worry and concern up to that given point of having to resort to asking on the forum. I appreciate your apology and I would like to offer the same.

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    wow, long read! shady business combined with very defensive replies, not anyone i'd want to deal with.

    glad i didn't waste any money with LPP!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Formula218 View Post
    wow, long read! shady business combined with very defensive replies, not anyone i'd want to deal with.

    glad i didn't waste any money with LPP!!
    I'd be defensive too when you all but had him physically nailed to a cross. He explained himself many times on the same issues and then you don't believe him and want written proof. When XS backs his story with the same thing in writing, they want physical proof. Sadly, even with a picture of the manufacturing facility with a signed notary's stamp and a handshake from the governor, it would be the same result. LPP's was never gonna win in this witch hunt after it got 7 pages in before he could reply. Also, both sides have apologized for the miscommunications and accusations so its time for this to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LPP View Post
    Yes, I have answered the concerns
    a) they are made in the USA.
    b) They are 321 except for the flanges.
    The point is the XS-POWER does not sell these headers that I sell.
    d) these are not the headers you can get on ebay from DNA or XOXO parts or any of the other companies that Xspower makes Items for.
    Lastly, I think being called a liar, and a thief is important to me and I wanted to address that.
    Thanks
    I will ask this question again since it has yet to be answered. How do we, the customer, KNOW that we received LPP's version of XS Power headers when others sell an LT1 header for less that are produced by XS Power and are labeled/packaged the same as your LPP headers? We can purchase LT1 headers directly through XS Power for $475 shipped (was $449 last week), so what is the difference between your version and the headers received when purchased directly through XS Power themselves or one of their other venders?

    It is very odd that XS Power does not list the LT1 headers on their website as being 321 stainless steel but mentions that in numerous other header descriptions listed on their site. It is also very odd that XS Power states in emails that these headers are made in USA, but does not mention that very important fact in their description. I am in no way asking you for an explanation as to why XS Power describes these headers on their site as they do, just wanted to point out some things that are important to customers and would be better selling points if listed in the description by the manufacturer.

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    LPP uses a different design than XS-Power.
    How do I know this? Because I have XS-Power. Another member here bought LPPs. He had no grinding to do, no hammering. He also put new poly mounts in.
    I had grinding to do, my rubber motor mounts have maybe 2000 miles on them. I had no rubbing on the steering shaft but he did. I don't know if he used a ls1 shaft or Lt1 shaft, I used a ls1 shaft and I know my lt1 would have fit. But that's all 'circumstantial'.

    In my opinion, two similar but different designs homie. But what do i know..

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    I just want a little more than words on the Made in America part, you would think for such a proud statement it would be easy to prove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanDalessandro View Post
    LPP uses a different design than XS-Power.
    How do I know this? Because I have XS-Power. Another member here bought LPPs. He had no grinding to do, no hammering. He also put new poly mounts in.
    I had grinding to do, my rubber motor mounts have maybe 2000 miles on them. I had no rubbing on the steering shaft but he did. I don't know if he used a ls1 shaft or Lt1 shaft, I used a ls1 shaft and I know my lt1 would have fit. But that's all 'circumstantial'.

    In my opinion, two similar but different designs homie. But what do i know..

    Ye have little faith.

    uploadfromtaptalk1438614702802.jpg
    I also bought LPP headers, and received headers labeled/packaged/shipped directly from XS Power. What im trying to find out is how to actually identify what I received if they are all labeled/packaged the same and shipped from XS Power's warehouse. Is there a comparison of LPP headers VS XS Power headers that we can view and identify what we have since they are labeled the same?

    "Ye have little faith."
    Yes, and rightfully so when you purchase one product- receive something labeled as another- then the only means of contacting the seller is through emails which receive no response or through an online forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shownomercy View Post
    I just want a little more than words on the Made in America part, you would think for such a proud statement it would be easy to prove.
    and also a statement that the manufacturer and other venders selling their headers would advertise as well!

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