LPP Vendor Question

**LPP** · 08-01-2015, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Badazz96z28

My guess is that Kooks and other name brand headers cost more because they are the companies that actually do the R&D and make them in America with American product. Other companies buy their product and have it copied and mass produced overseas.

Again . people with " MY Guess " and " I feel " and " I think " and " I dont know but I would bet " ...
well - maybe Kooks has a giant building with giant enployee overhead and giant expense and giant promo as well.
nah.. its all R&D.

**LPP** · 08-01-2015, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by shownomercy

Which is fine, so be it, XS power is the cheaper of the two same products. Summit/Jegs etc all do the same with selling house brand stuff as repackaged name brand stuff.

BUT, LPP claims USA made, and XS says china, one says 321, other says 304. As a consumer, that is shady as fuck.

I would bet they are all made overseas (there, now you can say its "not china") and drop shipped from the NC address.

In the end, if it fits and quality is there, great, awesome to see quality LT1 stuff, but don't have the nerve to say its American made.

another with " I would bet " and " I feel ..
I have said over and over XS does not make 304 for the LT1
I have saud over and over XS does not make LT1 or LS1 overseas
It is made in america, american made, Not made by chinese asians tawian korean or whatever
The XS power tag has been on LPP items for years as previous pics have shown and clients have uploaded and stated ( mickey i think last couple pages )
XS stopped putting oher companies tags on others headers they do to broaden their exposure and I dont have the money to do my own line! I dont have $5million dollars to buy a warehouse and do my own headers
they did headers for DTS competch biigballerz whatever that went under and they decided this not me this was in 2008-2009-2010
so if yuo want to FEEL or THINK or BET you can do so I cant help you with your thoughts
I called xspower and they said they never told anyone that so thats why I think it is all a staged scammed post from the get go and thats that !

**shownomercy** · 08-01-2015, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by LPP

That question was answered already. I will again tell you. Years ago - XS made items for companies such as DTS and Comptech that for example went out of business. From what they told me this expense of boxes and tags for so many companies was in their mind not such a good idea and it was better to brand the headers with their badge and have us as sellers sell the headers as exclusive or group buys. You might see it on their site but from what I have been told orders wont be filled as they protect their vendors.
And, again, the headers are made in USA. And again they are made in GA, ( by a company licensed by XSPOWER ) thats what I know. XSPOWER makes headers in the USA and Overseas so that is what you can WRAP your head around.

So you know, that XS power sub contracts out in USA GA to make your headers, other than word of mouth, proof?

Originally Posted by LPP

The tags get placed in various locations. The items are made in the USA for LT1 and LS1 - The pic above is from last years version - this year the tag location was moved
ssautchrorme and xspower are sister companies to answer your question daw daw.
Notice how mickey4play says MY LPP HEADERS and they have XSPOWER tag - do you see it now ?
I have explained this now for 2 days.

Ah, so the "tags" are USA made.

Originally Posted by LPP

another with " I would bet " and " I feel ..
I have said over and over XS does not make 304 for the LT1
I have saud over and over XS does not make LT1 or LS1 overseas
It is made in america, american made, Not made by chinese asians tawian korean or whatever
The XS power tag has been on LPP items for years as previous pics have shown and clients have uploaded and stated ( mickey i think last couple pages )
XS stopped putting oher companies tags on others headers they do to broaden their exposure and I dont have the money to do my own line! I dont have $5million dollars to buy a warehouse and do my own headers
they did headers for DTS competch biigballerz whatever that went under and they decided this not me this was in 2008-2009-2010
so if yuo want to FEEL or THINK or BET you can do so I cant help you with your thoughts
I called xspower and they said they never told anyone that so thats why I think it is all a staged scammed post from the get go and thats that !

I would love to see the factory or even a address of the place in GA. Name of subcontractor perhaps? Must be a large facility to make headers for you and SSAC/XS

You call me out for hearsay, but yet have yet to counter it with anything concrete. Prove to me that you are a true 100% USA made product, I would really be happy if you did and made all my posting look like me being an ass. Really. Honestly would.

**Darkknight039** · 08-02-2015, 12:15 AM

Again, it just seems all your talk is deflection by use of semantics. It's completely irrelevant. Everything is based on your "word." Again, HOW DOES A CUSTOMER KNOW!? They place on order with LPP for LPP headers and they get XS Power. XS Power says their headers are 304 and made in China and that, Mr. LPP, is the truth! So either you are somebody you talked to XS Power is not being truthful or misinformed. And, as I said, PLEASE, anyone here or yourself can do a thorough search themselves and will find the same information I found concerning your business, customer service, shipping and the same issue here. You accepted my money, you HAVE my money, I paid over half a grand just so I could post this because I am part of some secret society of performance headers whom have devoted themselves to destroying header businesses. That is the most RIDICULOUS thing I've ever heard of! I can't "wrap my head around that!" If I was to even do that, wouldn't anyone use more social media and multiple posts across several forums to accomplish such an absurd mission?? Not to mention I've been a member since 2010 with only 60+ posts. NO! I came here because of YOUR post about YOUR LPP headers (and not XS Power!) and because your a sponsor so what forum would know better to answer my questions and possibly get you to respond since you don't want to answer emails. None of this, NOTHING, NOT A SINGLE WORD, ANYTHING, was EVER said on your website, when placing an order, shipping the order, receiving the order about your process and association with XS Power!!! HOW WOULD ANY CUSTOMER KNOW?!? THERE IS NO PROOF OF ANYTHING except in your adversarial responses here! I tried contacting you, SEVERAL TIMES to explain this and all you would give was your word they were 321 stainless and made in Georgia. That's it! I'm sorry, Mr. LPP, but simple " you have my word" holds no weight in the business-customer transaction. I have been nothing but civil and open minded throughout this whole thing from the start to now until you come on here and decide to attack, be defensive and then outright accuse me! I came on here to try to get some answers and this is the result and low and behold, somebody else has the same issue and posts his pictures. But then you accuse us of working together because he is part of the "kill the header business" cult. You can call me whatever you want, I'm not a child that is going to resort to that level by calling anyone a "worm" or anything at all, for that matter. That's just immature.
I'll let the responses on here do the talking and people can make up their own minds.

And AGAIN, for "two days" in row I've said THIS POST WOULD NEVER EXIST if you would have responded to me privately.
And "that's that."

**Dan** · 08-02-2015, 12:55 AM

Daw daw is Dawdaw.. he's a member here. He purchased a set of LPP headers in 2010...

**Darkknight039** · 08-02-2015, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by DanDalessandro

Daw daw is Dawdaw.. he's a member here. He purchased a set of LPP headers in 2010...

Noted

**Sahara54** · 08-02-2015, 05:57 AM

This place is in the Stone Mountain area (11mi) and makes Stainless Performance Exhausts per their site. I'm not trying to get into this shit but this took maybe 20 seconds on the google. Email them and ask if the sub contract for XS's domestic V8 product lines.

**blackbirdws6** · 08-02-2015, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Sahara54

This place is in the Stone Mountain area (11mi) and makes Stainless Performance Exhausts per their site. I'm not trying to get into this shit but this took maybe 20 seconds on the google. Email them and ask if the sub contract for XS's domestic V8 product lines.

Still one piece of the puzzle and honestly, the customer should not need to do all this research. What needs to be answered is how the customer can differentiate the product they received from another when it comes with different labeling and packaging.

Perhaps this info should be put on the website? All I know is setting customer expectations is paramount. I sell headlight components and if someone orders said brand, this is what they get. I would expect to be read the riot act if I sent a differently branded product and rightfully so.

Since the vendor hasn't provided more than his word on the subject, I'm not surprised at the responses here.