LPP Vendor Question

**shownomercy** · 07-31-2015, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by popo8

I dont have any amswers Im just following along trying to help get us all through this.

The xs label he said is that they still wanted credit for making the lpp pieces. That was my suspicion earlier... so it makes sense to me.

I only have to go off of what he says and what people who buy them have said. Again... unbiased in the middle here.

LTXtech.com IS my drug...

Which is fine, so be it, XS power is the cheaper of the two same products. Summit/Jegs etc all do the same with selling house brand stuff as repackaged name brand stuff.

BUT, LPP claims USA made, and XS says china, one says 321, other says 304. As a consumer, that is shady as fuck.

I would bet they are all made overseas (there, now you can say its "not china") and drop shipped from the NC address.

In the end, if it fits and quality is there, great, awesome to see quality LT1 stuff, but don't have the nerve to say its American made.

***SSlowBoat*** · 07-31-2015, 02:19 PM

What I know is they are really nice headers, just put them on @Ltconvert 383 car, and they looked and fit pretty well for the size

**Darkknight039** · 07-31-2015, 02:19 PM

And no, I'm not saying that markings make all the difference. Obviously not. But as I already stated, XS Power involvement was not mentioned at any point in the process from his adverstising LPP headers on his site (which has LPP plates welded on the headers in the pictures) to the ordering process, shipping or even in the box when you receive them.
No mention of XS Power at all but when you receive them, and I think ANYONE would react the same, you think you got XS Power headers which are not 321 or made in the U.S. So naturally you think a mistake has been made.

Had I ordered these from XS Power, there would be no question in my mind as to what, how and where these headers were made and this issue wouldn't even be happening.

**harner** · 07-31-2015, 02:19 PM

We can dance around here all day, taking apart each others posts line by line and analyzing them. I think LPP made a decent attempt at justifying what was done.

You can go and have it tested to ensure it is 321 SS or just keep beating a dead horse at this point.

Sure, I'd love to hear about a plant walkthrough, but so many others bought these without question. I don't see anything coming out of this aside from knowing LPP has a strange defense mechanism when accused of something.

As an unbiased outsider, I'd still consider LPP a major competitor. I ran Chinese 304 on my TBSS for 4 years without issue lol.

**97firehawk** · 07-31-2015, 02:20 PM

The way i see it is that i don't care where they are made because they are still one of the nicest headers we can get for the price and quality and in my option the best ground clearenced header out there . If you want send them back and order directly from xspower to save a 100 go for it , if you want to send them back and spend what 1500 on some small tube kooks go for it .

Not to start shit but to be honest this is heading into shit storm territory. But you seem to be more concerned with gather the masses and they're pitchforks for a good old fashioned hangin

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**Darkknight039** · 07-31-2015, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by SSlowBoat

What I know is they are really nice headers, just put them on @Ltconvert 383 car, and they looked and fit pretty well for the size

Agreed! In all honesty, as I have already said as well, I've heard goor reviews about XS Power headers and I was even considering them until I saw 321 stainles and made in Georgia some went with them instead. Had I known they were going to be the XS Power headers I would have just ordered them and saved $125 and known exactly what I was getting.

**blackbirdws6** · 07-31-2015, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by harner

We can dance around here all day, taking apart each others posts line by line and analyzing them. I think LPP made a decent attempt at justifying what was done.

You can go and have it tested to ensure it is 321 SS or just keep beating a dead horse at this point.

Sure, I'd love to hear about a plant walkthrough, but so many others bought these without question. I don't see anything coming out of this aside from knowing LPP has a strange defense mechanism when accused of something.

As an unbiased outsider, I'd still consider LPP a major competitor. I ran Chinese 304 on my TBSS for 4 years without issue lol.

If sufficient proof was provided one way or the other, the discussion would be done. Right now its a shady situation and a vendor stating that we just need to believe what he has stated with no other explanation. Folks just want to know what they are buying, especially if there is a price difference. No one is questioning whether a 304 stainless header will last or not.

***SSlowBoat*** · 07-31-2015, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Darkknight039

Agreed! In all honesty, as I have already said as well, I've heard goor reviews about XS Power headers and I was even considering them until I saw 321 stainles and made in Georgia some went with them instead. Had I known they were going to be the XS Power headers I would have just ordered them and saved $125 and known exactly what I was getting.

I'm not gonna knock Lpp though, I can buy what he'd saying with them showing up saying xs power on them. There are many manufacturers in the us that do this. I work in the commercial industrial hvac industry and there are many things made by one company under many brands that have a different name on them, and one small difference between the two. Pumps for example: one manufacturer assembles one in China with plastic impeller, one in us with delrin impeller, same motor frame color etc, two different names. I have ordered one from secondary manufacturer and it showed up with primary manufacturer name on it.

**blackbirdws6** · 07-31-2015, 02:28 PM

Why not just allow him to return the XS power headers and replace them with a set that say LPP?

**Darkknight039** · 07-31-2015, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by 97firehawk

The way i see it is that i don't care where they are made because they are still one of the nicest headers we can get for the price and quality and in my option the best ground clearenced header out there . If you want send them back and order directly from xspower to save a 100 go for it , if you want to send them back and spend what 1500 on some small tube kooks go for it .

Not to start shit but to be honest this is heading into shit storm territory. But you seem to be more concerned with gather the masses and they're pitchforks for a good old fashioned hangin

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"Not to be starting s**t" yet, you just did.
To me, you are a suspiciously staunch defender of LPP and I don't think your understanding the point as you've done to me in other postings completely unrelated. If you've read my posts about this you would know that this is not about any kind of "public attack" or "reputation hanging"

Give me a break...