LPP Vendor Question

[SSlowBoat]

Then return em and buy xs power.......from xs power......

[Darkknight039]

Didnt I just say that? If you read my previous posts you would know that I had said I'd be willing to keep them if he would simply explain to me why these are marked XS Power. Of course, if he can't, and these are in fact just XS Power headers then just give me the price difference for that and I will still keep them.

[harner]

Harner shows thanks for that post when his previous posts says just the opposite.

I know where he is coming from. When I bought my LT's, it was either $1k+ for stainless, ebay stainless that no one was brave enough to experiment with, Pacesetter, Hookers, or junk. I went with Hookers, but would have killed for either XS Power or LPP. I don't agree with paying more for the same rebadged thing.

[Darkknight039]

OK, my apologies then. It seems like you're understanding where I'm coming from. I'm not knocking 304 stainless from China, in fact I'll keep them and use them. I bought them from LP P because I felt more comfortable with the 321 stainless and that they were made in Georgia but I'm thinking that he only states that so he could get an extra $125 from me when they are just XS Power headers.

[LPP]

Hello and I am sorry about the delay in responding.
I want to first off say I am really sad about seeing all this. I dont know if this is a staged event or not.
The headers the clients receive from me LPP via XS-POWER ARE 321 STAINLESS STEEL - THE MANUFACTURER XS-POWER BACKS THAT UP WITH METALLURGY TESTS.
Darknight is basically just calling me a thief and everyone is just letting him without understanding the entire issue.
I HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT MOST OTHERS DO AND YOU FIND IT OFFENSIVE TO BE CALLED A THEIF
WHEN OTHER COMPANIES DRIVE LEXUS AND BMW AND THEN I GET CALLED A LIAR WITHOUT ANY PROOF.
THEY ARE THE RIPOFFS NOT ME. I try to save you guys money. I get XS-POWER to do better things for you guys. I have brought product to the table for you guys.
Also - I SPOKE WITH XS-POWER AND THE VEHIMENTLY DENY THIS.
Here are some points:
A)THEY DENY ANYONE AT XS-POWER STATED THAT ANYONE STATED THIS.
B)THE LS1 LT1 AND OTHER HIGH PERFORMANCE HEADERS ARE NOT MADE IN ASIA LIKE SOME OF THEIR OTHER ITEMS FOR IMPORTED CARS. ( civic honda lexus )
C)THEY HAVE A FACTORY IN STONE MOUNTAIN GEORGIA FOR THE CATTED ITEMS AND THE HIGH PERFOMANCE ITEMS
D) KOOKS, ARH, PACESETTER , JBA ALL HAVE A LINE OF ITEMS THAT THEN HAS A SUBSET -
FOR EXAMPLE - you can get all the same item from 1 or another company ARH, KOOKS, XS-POWER, JBA if you were looking at some Vette or Camaro Headers
2" HIGH FLOW 321
2" STEPPED TO 1AND 7/8TH 321
1 AND 7/8TH 321
1 3/4TH 304
MILD STEEL WITH CERAMIC COATING 1 7/8TH
Polished Stainless ( JBA ) AND Non Polished (JBA ) and Mild
THE DISSERTATION ON THIS THREAD CALLING ME A LIAR IS SAD
SOMEONE WITH 43 POSTS CAN SAY THIS;
I'm thinking that he only states that so he could get an extra $125 from me when they are just XS Power headers.
AND THEN EVERYONE CHANGES THE PERCEPTION OF ME BECAUSE HE SAYS IT.
I AM HONEST AND XS-POWER HAS BEEN HONEST WITH THEIR CLIENTS AS WELL.
WE THINK THIS WAS A SET UP OR A PAID BASHING POST, ALL RIGGED UP FROM THE GET GO. THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE TO THWART SALES - CANT BYPASS THAT THOUGHT!
I DONT KNOW- MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
2 POSTS IN 1 DAY SAYING I AM A LIAR
Again, the LT1 HEADERS AND Y PIPE Indeed are as stated, I am not ripping my community off and I really take offense to that statement.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY
LPP

[shownomercy]

In all seriousness you did not answer a single concern of his.

Are they made in USA, yes or no.
Are they 100% 321 SS, if so, you can show material certs for this, yes or no.

If neither of the above questions are true, to me, XS power and LPP are the same thing, cept price marked up for LPP.

I would rather you prove me wrong but the previous posts spread across the internet and this one speak otherwise.

[LPP]

Yes, I have answered the concerns
a) they are made in the USA.
b) They are 321 except for the flanges.
The point is the XS-POWER does not sell these headers that I sell.
d) these are not the headers you can get on ebay from DNA or XOXO parts or any of the other companies that Xspower makes Items for.
Lastly, I think being called a liar, and a thief is important to me and I wanted to address that.
Thanks

[shownomercy]

Ok, thanks for replying.

So you claim XSpower is not your stuff, different materials etc etc, so how come his product came in an XS power box?

If you guys were so adamant about separating yourself from XS, why even risk the same shipping box? Really makes me wonder, cause it would seem silly to have XS power boxes in GA when XS power is made in China...

Whole thing seems sketch to me.

[blackbirdws6]

I read through the whole thread this morning and the concerns appear valid. When choosing a product made in the USA vs overseas, I expect the cost to be higher and hopefully quality is better as well. Will either header work, sure but if I paid a premium for made in USA and better materials, I want to make sure this is the case.

The concerning part that has not been addressed is why the LPP headers he purchased say XS. Did the folks at XS label the header incorrectly or did he actually just get shipped a set of XS by accident? If they can't tell which header is which, how will the consumer? No one is going to spend $$ getting a metallurgy test to confirm 304 vs 321 so you shouldn't be overly defensive if folks are skeptical. It appears there were multiple opportunities to address the issue with this customer but he is getting incomplete answers. He calls XS and they say everything is 304 made in China....How would you react in this situation?

[blackbirdws6]

Yes, I have answered the concerns
a) they are made in the USA.
b) They are 321 except for the flanges.
The point is the XS-POWER does not sell these headers that I sell.
d) these are not the headers you can get on ebay from DNA or XOXO parts or any of the other companies that Xspower makes Items for.
Lastly, I think being called a liar, and a thief is important to me and I wanted to address that.
Thanks

Was there a part C) to this?