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09-17-2014, 12:55 AM #1
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engine combo for street/strip
Would a 396 be a good choice for the street, as far as longevity goes
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09-17-2014, 08:28 AM #2Administrator
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Thin Pistons. Eh. If it's built right. What's wrong with a forged 355 and spray or a stout 383?
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1994 Firebird Formula 381 stroker - Carrying the torch! - 9.64 @ 139.4mph
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09-17-2014, 08:55 AM #3
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yep, 355 or 383 is all you need.
If using a LT1 intake, TB, MAF, typical headers and heads that are available for LTx engines you cant really feed a 396 properluya nd will never see any benefit overa 383.
A 355 or 383 is a better choice.
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09-17-2014, 09:18 AM #4Administrator
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just remember, its not just about the motor, the total package comes into play. trans, stall, gears, etc all have a factor.
1994 Firebird Formula 381 stroker - Carrying the torch! - 9.64 @ 139.4mph
1994 Camaro Vert - SBE LE1 Summit 8802 Cam - The Cruiser
1995 Firebird Formula - Dark Aqua Metallic - maybe restore?
The wrench/driver for LTConvert's 94 Z28- Ellwein 383/LE Trickflows/ P600B / CPT Ultra Pro Race 4L60E/Holley Terminator EFI/little huff of spray
10.16 @ 138mph. Shooting for 9.99 for Frank/Gail Cahall!
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09-17-2014, 02:50 PM #5
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Thank's guy's 355 or 383 it will be
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09-23-2014, 07:43 AM #6
396 has the same wall thickness as a 355 or 383, just a 3.875" stroke instead of 3.48 or 3.75. Like Lloyd said 396 needs more air, but with a PCM limit of 7100 and the fact that a 3.875" crank is the same cost about as 3.75, the 396 would need less rpm with the same heads. Personally I'd do a 396 and enjoy the little more torque and be different.
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There's more side loading on the cylinder walls with a lower rod length/stroke ratio and the acceleration of the pistons/rods will be much greater. Your bottom end will see a lot more stress per given RPM but that can be countered with using lighter parts. A good 4340 crank, short/lightweight pistons, and the longest rod you can fit that is strong but not too heavy will make a beastly 396 motor you can turn to 7k safely. At that point it would be a good to ditch the LT1 intake for a single plane like a converted super vic. If you're not going to spray a 383 then I don't see any reason not to go all the way with a 396. You're going to be buying all new parts anyway.
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09-23-2014, 10:23 AM #8
I've had pretty good luck with my forged 355 it has 6 inch rods . It definitely surprises people .
97 firehawk m6 with a forged long rod 355 stock heads and intake soon to be upgraded to LE 21* tfs heads and a big asscam , rpm built level 5 t56 trans s60 with 4.30 gears umi suspension walbro pump and hot wire kit and a spinning best 12.36 @ 114 crap 60 foot.
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09-25-2014, 06:29 AM #9
Like catmainge said, if you are not going to spray too much go 396, if you are spraying you want a bigger top of the piston, so you need shorter rods, a 5.85 or 6" rod will leave the top of the piston on a 396 pretty thin, so a 5.7 rod 383 or a 6" rod 355 is better for big spray, but if you are NA it's not as big of a deal. Longer rods decrease piston acceleration and side loading. Since you are already buying everything, I'd go 396. And like I said a 396 uses more air so with the same cam and heads the power would be at a lower rpm than a 383, and more of it.
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