2016 Shootout Rules and Date open discussion

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Originally Posted by firebird_1995

To put it in perspective, it takes about 5 entries for a class to break even with a $150 winner and $75 runner up payout. In order to offer a $1000 winner and $250 runner up payout we would have to get 25 cars registered @ $50 a piece.

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Oh I have no doubt you guys don't run the event to pad your wallet. Every penny and then some goes right back into running the event. I was simply saying a hypothetical case there. Money can do anything! A Wally to an NHRA guy is like a Super Bowl ring. Hard to get those guys to pass up that particular event. Indy is like their #1 event of the year. A win there is the highest you can get.

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Originally Posted by Badhawk

Kyle, it gave us a little warning before it took the dump airconditioning quit working guage said it wasn't charging got off the highway and found a autozone and the truck died right there changed it in the parking lot so wasn't to bad.

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Great news u made it to a place to get u rolling again.

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Not sure if I saw Gump post in this thread but when you view "poll results" Gump has voted.

I have not voted since I will be there regardless and would rather have people vote with the date effecting their attendance and did not want my vote to skew any decision made.

Lloyd

For the record, I am not going to vote on the WHEN, because I'm down for whatever is best for the majority. YES, it is hot as balls when we hold the event, and cooler air would be good... BUT at the same time, the long weekend is convenient for many (I take off a total of 2 weeks, so that does not effect me either).

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Originally Posted by NightTrain66

Not sure if I saw Gump post in this thread but when you view "poll results" Gump has voted.

I have not voted since I will be there regardless and would rather have people vote with the date effecting their attendance and did not want my vote to skew any decision made.

Lloyd

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Originally Posted by popo8

For the record, I am not going to vote on the WHEN, because I'm down for whatever is best for the majority. YES, it is hot as balls when we hold the event, and cooler air would be good... BUT at the same time, the long weekend is convenient for many (I take off a total of 2 weeks, so that does not effect me either).

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X3 here

I also did not vote thinking the same thing that I would work around the other people but I do think cooler air would be nice.

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I'd be there regardless either way but voted just because I hate hot weather .

Funny how everyone was so pissed we moved it a month after labor day last year, and now labor day is too hot and it should be moved. I still agree a little later hoping for cool weather is a good idea. Granted im not driving home the 20hrs like the NY guys and wanting an extra day to drive home, but my drive home is from BG is 12-13... and i work weekends, so im taking off thurs, fri, sat, and sun for the event. So hooray i get an extra day to drive home...

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Originally Posted by joelster

It always used to be Labor Day weekend to allow the long-haulers an extra day to get home. It makes sense to hold it on that weekend. You start taking chances when you hold out an extra month, gambling on cooler weather. The guys with 12+ hour rides have to leave on Sunday and hope that they don't encounter any issues. My first shootout, I blew a trailer tire that shredded the fender. I finally got back on the road hours later, and then hit a downpour and construction in PA. I didn't roll into my house until around 10pm. Having that extra day off is well worth it. As for the heat, deal with it. Everyone has to run in it, everyone will be running slower. Nobody has an advantage.

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Aaaactually, it stared out as a spring event and moved to labor day when it got moved to BG cause it took longer making new arrangements. (Or so i heard)

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Originally Posted by waltsfastz

+1 on the Et limit on classes. I dont have a lot of dogs in this race since I couldnt run mine, but still needs discussing. As for waiting later. If Bowling green is an option for next year dont base the weather on the time of year. Next labor day it could be 70 or 105. This coming weekend is suppose to be mid 70s.

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I see this point too. Could be 70, could be 105. Like last year it was a month later, could cool off some or some freak thing could happen and it could be 30* in the morning. Which also sucked...

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Originally Posted by popo8

I think we have 2 many classes with the limited number of participants. Lets consolodate some.

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This has been discussed over and over and over. Theres no way to consolidate. They are broken down into basically as few classes as possible. The only way to grow an event is to have places for people to go. I grew up with my dad running motocross event with 200-300 entries. Hell we tried to do it last year and everyone went ape shit like it was the end of the world. So we were forced to change it back.

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Originally Posted by joelster

My point is that there are a lot of LT1 Stockers out there, and if they see the rules list that puts them in Mod N/A, and they see that their little 355 is going up against a 396 with 235cc ports and a single plane, they might not even think about coming. You'd be very surprised at the number of veteran NHRA/IHRA LT1 guys that have never heard of the LTX Shootout. As popular as it seems among us, it is still relatively unknown outside of our world. Gump is one of the faster cars and in 2012 it was running 10.80's with the hurricane breathing down our necks. Mike was running 10.0's, Carlos 10.20's, me 10.40's, Larry 10.50's. Granted he could holeshot our asses, but he's giving up 100+hp.

What "could" be a better idea would be to have a class just for them to run heads up, and any of them that want to also run Mod N/A could also do so. I'd love to see a field of 8-10 wheelstanding stockers.

And yes, I have plans to attend again.

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I think them having their own class is an awesome idea. And they can run whatever other class is they want.

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Originally Posted by popo8

"Sweet" Payouts are difficult since the event is so small. Sponsorship money and parts prizes come close to covering costs for the rental etc... plus swag... trophies... etc.

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Funny you say that, i could have swore you were making accusations that tons of money was being embezzled in years past...

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Originally Posted by joelster

Oh I have no doubt you guys don't run the event to pad your wallet. Every penny and then some goes right back into running the event. I was simply saying a hypothetical case there. Money can do anything! A Wally to an NHRA guy is like a Super Bowl ring. Hard to get those guys to pass up that particular event. Indy is like their #1 event of the year. A win there is the highest you can get.

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Most people understand running the event actually costs money, some, sadly, do not. Would be awesome if there was payout so someof them were more likely to show up...

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Hey zohan... if ur lookin to cause issues. Feel free to not visit the site. Im not getting into the shadyness of last years actions, or dealing with ur disrespect. One more and i pull ur plug here. Please feel free to remain here and respectful and enjoy the community tho.
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I wasnt meaning to be disrespectful. Ive gotten plenty of that from certain people. But everything i said was facts. Right? Im sorry that for some reason you have this thing against me ever since i was trying to sell a shortblock and being an "unmotivated seller" because i didnt push it on someone that was looking for something else specifically. Im not trying to be "banned". Ill just continue here trying to avoid any confrontation with you like i have the past two years with a bad taste in my mouth and keep to myself. And very seldom here in the past year over things said as well. Again, hope this isnt my one more to get me banned, but felt i should at least answer

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