My Pros and Cons in a small town PD.

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Originally Posted by firebird_1995

Aaaaand now I understand the need for Valium. Damn man

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Oh, yeah.. it was bad.... and CLOSE....


UPDATE...

Just went through all of my leave time for the year that I had accumulated... I have 295.5 hours left...


At 40 hours a week, that means that I can only take off 7.5 straight weeks, until, I have to go on unpaid leave..... and thats assuming that I can go on UNPAID leave and they wont try to can me... Guess I have something else to discuss with my attorney....


Now for the good news.


As I had mentioned before, I had an MRI of my hip because my treating Physician believed there is a chance that I may have a laberal tear in the hip joint, which is causing MORE pain overall.... the MRI did not show a tear, but the Dr explained that laberal tears without a die injected first can be very difficult to detect....sooooo.... we took a shot in the dark and on Friday, I took a (I believe its a steroid) injection into my hip... and holy shit...., I have alot of relief... Now I can still feel the pain in my back, but there is a bunch of pain that is currently "missing" since the day after the injection......

Now I am on my pain meds again, which I take regularly till I force myself to work, till they totally leave my system, and the pain becomes unbearable again (then I stay home and take my meds)...all because I have to ration my time..UGH!

Anyways, now I need to contact my treating physician and get the MRI done with the DYE, however, we have proven that there is another RELATED issue, and Im hoping we can reverse my work status with the insurance company now.... we will see..


PS- if any of the spys are reading this ....THIS ^^^ is whats coming next.

Dude 3.5" needle I would faint. I don't do needles at all

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Originally Posted by Badbird_96

Dude 3.5" needle I would faint. I don't do needles at all

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There comes a point when your so desperate for relief... your willing to do and try things you dont want to , or never thought you would....

Im that desperate...


(even though these cock sucking faggots think Im faking and I do all this for the fun of it....)

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Originally Posted by Badbird_96

Dude 3.5" needle I would faint. I don't do needles at all

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There comes a point when your so desperate for relief... your willing to do and try things you dont want to , or never thought you would....

Im that desperate...


(even though these cock sucking faggots think Im faking and I do all this for the fun of it....)

There is nothing fun about that

Its like the least of my worries anymore.....


All Im concerned with is , if we have not gone to court yet to reverse this BS, will they try to can me when my LEAVE time runs out.... or, is it acceptable to take UNPAID leave?

Ahhh, so today...Monday...

I get up, I skip my meds, because I am gonna go to work, and do what I can.... Not to mention I dont want to burn up to much leave time to quickly.... I know that I am still not certified with my duty weapon, so Im just riding a desk.

I pull in at quarter of 7am... and am talking with one of the guys in the lot...That Officer says to me, "what are youdoing here, (insert other officer name here) said your not coming to work anymore." I explained to him that once my full duty actually consists of going out on patrol, that may very well be the case, but as of now, the chances of me hurting myself more, are low.... At that time the Chief pulls in, and there is something on the roof of his car. Being nice, I mention to him that there is something on it (he has a Cherokee, and is not that tall)... he says to me "SHIT, is it still up there?" grabs the item and heads inside.... no thanks, no laugh, no nothing... no biggie.

I follow inside to make sure I get credit for being there at 7am..... I sit down, and go through the notes and paperwork that was waiting for me since last week when I was off. The Chief has already gone into his office and closed his door ( a door that is always open) I can hear that low tone phone conversation that is done to keep people from hearing you.. then I can hear his text messaging going off non stop, maybe Im paranoid and it has nothing to do with me... but my gut tells me different.. I do some paperwork from 7-745, and I head over to the road crew garage for a small cup of coffee and to BS....

After being out there for a bit, I head back into the office, just as the Chief is heading out.. I make small talk, "heading out?" and am ignored as he goes out and locks the front door behind him.... I go back to my desk, and I check my emails....
I decide to call my physical therapist to see if I can reschedule my appointments to later in the day, so I dont have to burn up 4 hours for a 1.5 hour PT appointment. I get it changed to later in the day... GREAT, but now what.
Realizing there is nothing to do, I get my duty weapon out... break it down, and start cleaning it... the damn thing all but shines after 45 minutes of cleaning....

Now I sit there some more, and answer the phone a few times... At 1230 I eat an Italian hoagie that one of the road crew guys picked up for me... then I head back up to my desk. I BS with the secretary for a bit, mess around with my flashlight that needed a bulb that had been stolen while I was away.....

2pm rolls around, and the secretary leaves (she only works 4 hours a day)... I stay for another 15 minutes then head to my PT appointment.... Thats right.... 7hrs and 15 minutes, to clean a gun... eat lunch , drink coffee.... all because there is no light duty work for me to do, and I am not qualified to do full duty, which allows me to have an excuse not to stay home and burn up my leave time... and this all costs the twp, $33.22/hr.... oh well.

So all that time, no contact with the Chief other than when I arrived. I meet with my physical therapist at 3 and I do my routine... he tells me to make sure I put no less that 1.5 hours in before I leave because the Insurance company is calling and now wanting my exact check in and check outs to PT... I ask him why they would do that... he explains that they usually do that for people that leave work for PT then go off and do their own thing afterwards while on the clock....

WTF?!?!?! I use my own leave time because I have to for PT, and I even rescheduled it to be later in the day to not affect my work shift to much.... why does it matter... MY LEAVE TIME, I can do what I want with it as long as its approved... and the Chief (in writting) pre approved my leave time...

I dont get it... Im exhausted... Im not a liar... Im not a faker... I allow so many proceedures be done to me just for the hope that the next one will be the one to make it stop hurting..... Its just a game to them... its a game that I am like the visiting team, however I have no control over any of my players....(if that makes sense)

We will see what 2morro brings....

That's about all you can do at this point man. Wish there was something else I could tell ya, but there's not much more that I can think of past what we already discussed.

What the hell is wrong with these people it makes no sense for your chief to act so immature and ignore you and avoid you. Why does he care if you are really hurt or not? He doesn't have to pay a dime for any of it?? Its hard to believe that people turn on others that may have done many good things for them for something that can't even be helped. Wow!!!!

What are your options legally?

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Originally Posted by 94Blackbird

That's about all you can do at this point man. Wish there was something else I could tell ya, but there's not much more that I can think of past what we already discussed.

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I know.. but on a good note... my hip injection the other day (friday) really did alleviate some pain... so my treating physician will be ordering another MRI with dye, to try to get a better look at the problem.... then we may be able to get me feeling better. Its not making my back stop hurting, but you know when so much hurts it feels like one big pain.... well for now, my one big pain has gotten smaller.

Not a 100% fix but less pain is always better and a look to the bright side of the coin

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Originally Posted by SMok3 Em A11

What the hell is wrong with these people it makes no sense for your chief to act so immature and ignore you and avoid you. Why does he care if you are really hurt or not? He doesn't have to pay a dime for any of it?? Its hard to believe that people turn on others that may have done many good things for them for something that can't even be helped. Wow!!!!

What are your options legally?

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Currently, my attorney is gathering reports and medical opinions from all of my treating physicans (which takes some time to get) and once we have that we will petition the court to contest the insurance companies decision as well as the insurance companies doctors decision to release me to full duty....

Also, with this possible structural damage to my hip that may be direcly related to the manipulated walk that I have because of my back injury, we may have some footing to prove that there is at least something substantiated that is wrong, since they think Im lying about my back simply because MRIs dont show structural damage....

My issue is, I have to be easy on my leave time, which means sitting at a desk doing nothing... I re calculated my leave time and I have 295.5 hours... thats 7.5 weeks.... thats not alot, if it takes months to get to court.... Because once that leave time is done, so is my pay, and assuming the worst (being fired for not comming to work with no leave time) can not happen (IDK) then I have to figure out how to survive.... how to have two of us surviveing on NO income....

As for the chiefs way of acting.... when I first got hurt, my supervisor told me.... "CHief, does not let people stay out on injury, he doesnt believe anyone should get a free ride..."

You know I was thinking Larry. Its sad how often it happens where an MVP gets injured as is tossed aside. Look at all the athletes that get injured and they go from being star players to whatever happened to so and so. Fingers crossed they get the hip fixed and that leads to them finding and fixing the rest of you.

I hope so also. ty


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
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Originally Posted by popo8

As for the chiefs way of acting.... when I first got hurt, my supervisor told me.... "CHief, does not let people stay out on injury, he doesnt believe anyone should get a free ride..."

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What a load of crap. Sounds like that man has spent way too much time as an administrator and doesn't realize the toll workig the road takes on your body. There are people in police administration now who only wore handcuffs a six shooter and maybe a speed loader and wooden baton. When they worked the road, no Taser, steel baton/ASP, balistic vest, 2 15rd mags, 2 cuffs, radio, cell phone, etc.

If any of these people I speak of are reading this I invite you to get off your ass put on EXACTLY what your road guys are currently wearing and work the road for an ENTIRE shift not just a few hours. Then get back to me and tell me how you lower back, hips, and knees feel after you get in and out of the car 50+ times a shift. Oh don't forget about standing and sitting in the car uncomfortably for hours on end. Now take that one day and try to imagine doing it for years on end trying to maintain a positive attitude coupled with the daily stress of trying to help people who don't trust you. Maintain a balanced healthy home life despite long hours and varrying shifts, NOT your administrative 8-5, M-F. Then hear your "supporitve command staff" comment that because you are a human being and your body can actually get hurt your just a loaf lookin for a free ride. What a load of shit.

Sorry for the rant Popo but it pisses me off when I see administration in any profession become so detached from the employees who actually do all the work they've forgotten what day to day life is like and don't have any concept of modern police duty.

X2 this happens in so many professions and pisses me off!! But its a lot worse when you choose a job that is extra dangerous/hazardous and/or a job that you choose to be a public servant to help and protect others. Its bullshit that you are being treated like some bum because you got hurt doing your job. And to be shunned by a pos desk jockey is even more fd up. F em Larry you are better.than this and deserve to be treated as a human!! Just keep those lawyers on the ball and take something back from them for.all that you've given!!

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Originally Posted by 96LT1355Z28

What a load of crap. Sounds like that man has spent way too much time as an administrator and doesn't realize the toll workig the road takes on your body. There are people in police administration now who only wore handcuffs a six shooter and maybe a speed loader and wooden baton. When they worked the road, no Taser, steel baton/ASP, balistic vest, 2 15rd mags, 2 cuffs, radio, cell phone, etc.

If any of these people I speak of are reading this I invite you to get off your ass put on EXACTLY what your road guys are currently wearing and work the road for an ENTIRE shift not just a few hours. Then get back to me and tell me how you lower back, hips, and knees feel after you get in and out of the car 50+ times a shift. Oh don't forget about standing and sitting in the car uncomfortably for hours on end. Now take that one day and try to imagine doing it for years on end trying to maintain a positive attitude coupled with the daily stress of trying to help people who don't trust you. Maintain a balanced healthy home life despite long hours and varrying shifts, NOT your administrative 8-5, M-F. Then hear your "supporitve command staff" comment that because you are a human being and your body can actually get hurt your just a loaf lookin for a free ride. What a load of shit.

Sorry for the rant Popo but it pisses me off when I see administration in any profession become so detached from the employees who actually do all the work they've forgotten what day to day life is like and don't have any concept of modern police duty.

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Originally Posted by SMok3 Em A11

X2 this happens in so many professions and pisses me off!! But its a lot worse when you choose a job that is extra dangerous/hazardous and/or a job that you choose to be a public servant to help and protect others. Its bullshit that you are being treated like some bum because you got hurt doing your job. And to be shunned by a pos desk jockey is even more fd up. F em Larry you are better.than this and deserve to be treated as a human!! Just keep those lawyers on the ball and take something back from them for.all that you've given!!

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Thank You both.... I really appreciate it....

My Lawyers are doing their thing.. its just a slow process...


While Im here, let me tell you about my day today.

Walked in to work at 7.

organized desk and checked emails till 8

8, went out and had coffee in the garage with the road crew.

Sat at my desk till noon.... completley ignored....

noon, I broke down my personal GLOCK and cleaned it immaculatley...

around 1pm, the Chief says his first words to me, "Larry, are you busy?"

I respond, "no sir."

He throws some papers on my desk and says, "handle this."

Apparently a guy walked into the station (my desk is way in the back) and that person caught the Chief out front and was asking some vehicle title transfering info....

Guess thats where he got stumped... I went out... answered the guys questions. he was on his way.

Ate lunch at 2pm.

went back and sat at my desk till 3:45.

WALKED OUT, went home...


They paid me $33.22/hr to do that.... simply to see me miserable (which I never show) and to know that I am not on my meds, so I believe they thrive, knowing my pain increases.

Lets see what 2moro brings.

I love my job... but they have successfully made me resent it.....

Just keep killing them with kindness and never let them get to you face to face. Smile and act like you love all the bullshit they're throwing at you. It will be less enjoyable to them if it doesn't bother you. Then later you van vent to us.

Well that's a perfect example of where the "road guy" knows more than the "administration" but they act as if they just don't have time cause they won't swallow their pride and admit they don't know everything. Keep you head up Larry at least your getting paid and not having to use your personal time.

Thanku...

It really has become a chess game.... but what sucks is i CAN NOT afford to lose.... the chief.

the twp.... the ins co...
win or lose, their 2moro will be the same..... one wrong decision or move on my side this can criple me (multiple meanings)


Background on my boss... after 6 years as a cop wayyyy back... he became chief of cherry hill nj.... finished his career there and retired.... he then was hired as chief at a decent size pa dept... and aft a few years was "escorted from the property, and his computers were seizef...." It was so hush hush that he became our chief.....

he is about 65 years old also...

Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

The ignore him til we need him approach......... its a waiting game now!
As long as you follow direction and policy there is not much else to do... I find it very upsetting that they would be this way however, I am not surprised :( hang in there bro.........
I went through similar about 17years ago:(

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Thanku... i actually feel a lil comfort this is something thats normal... well normal for ass holes.



Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

So this week... im now 4 days deep..
Spent all 8 hrs a day there everyday.
Not takin my meds are killin me...I think i may make a long weekend and get tge meds back in my system...

What have i done all week u ask????
-answered 2 phone calls
-answered questions for one walk in.
-cleaned and lubed 3 of my guns
-cleaned and lubed 2 knives
- drank lotsa coffee.


THATS IR



Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

Some I'm reading this, thinking how the hell do you lubricate a knife. In my mind I'm thinking like a big hunting knife or fixed blade. Then 5 minutes latter it hits me. A folding knife you dip why the hell would you lubricate a fixed blade.

Is it friday yet lol

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Some I'm reading this, thinking how the hell do you lubricate a knife. In my mind I'm thinking like a big hunting knife or fixed blade. Then 5 minutes latter it hits me. A folding knife you dip why the hell would you lubricate a fixed blade.

Is it friday yet lol

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HAHAHAH, and thats why I <3 you sunshine.... hahahhahhahaha

In the event you need a weapon you don't have to worry about anything jamming up lol. It will be so easy you will think you wiped it.down with exlax

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Originally Posted by Badbird_96

In the event you need a weapon you don't have to worry about anything jamming up lol. It will be so easy you will think you wiped it.down with exlax

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lol.... correctamundo


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
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Well, the week is over... I was there 36.5 hours out of 40...

2day I had to leave early for a mid day Physical Therapy appointment....

No real new updates... just livin the dream.....

A local PD to where we live has recently been in the lime light for being called dysfunctional.... in the article I saw a quote by their FOP rep... it SPOKE LOUD to me.... "When you are less concerned about what's going to happen to you out on the street than you are about what's going to happen when you walk into work, that's a hostile work environment,"

Dude that's everyday for me. Not in the same way but everyday I go into work I could not return home. Very dangerous job as far as normal jobs go. Me and you both have that in common. Yours is bad guys mine is thousands of tons of steel on a cable lifted by cranes. Either one can get us though :(

Back at it 2moro... I really suffered this weekend from the pain of pushing this week and only takin my meds at night... It does not have the same effect as when i take like the dr says...wake up and bed time... i thought if i did it after work and befor bed id get the same effect.... not true.....

I may have to re thing this trying to stretch out my leave time again...I just figured that while all there was for me to do was ride a desk i could make it happen....


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

Don't be too rough on your body Larry. You don't need anymore damage

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Originally Posted by Badbird_96

Don't be too rough on your body Larry. You don't need anymore damage

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I know..... thanku man


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

UPDATE:

Went and saw my treating physician yesterday.....

He will be leaving the practice at the end of the year, so it means I will have to get another doctor on board and caught up... For my next appointment we will all be meeting together...

Now, he said something to me that actually meant alot,..." He said, I normally dont like getting in the middle of all of this workmans comp bs... but Ive treated you for a while.. and I feel like I have gotten to know you pretty well. You are someone who wants to return to work, you do whatever I suggest,and you never refuse any treatments or give anyone a hard time. You have restored my faith in people in not wanting to take advantage of the system, and it would be my pleasure to fight for you, when/and or if this all goes to court...."



The injection into my him had shown relief, so I am now waiting for an appointment to see an orthopedic surgeon ...

Finally I have been able to read through most of this. Shit is rediculous. Hope all is going well

It is ridiculous, and thank you for taking the time to read through it.... at 28 pages... I know its alot....

My treating physician believes that I have damage to my hip... he is unsure if all along it has been the issue and we missed it because we were focused on my back... or if my manipulated walk because of the back pain damaged my hip...

Either way its a continuation of the same injury.... and Ill be seeing an Orthopedic surgeon to discuss what we know and ho I had temporary relief from the hip injection and see if he would like to do an MRI with dye injected...or just go in with one of those arthroscopic cameras....

I wish you all the best!!! If you open a lot ever. Remember. I'll be headed that way ;-) Its crazy how they are just tossing you around. Kinda pisses me off honestly

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Originally Posted by SUBARU POWER TIME

I wish you all the best!!! If you open a lot ever. Remember. I'll be headed that way ;-) Its crazy how they are just tossing you around. Kinda pisses me off honestly

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LOL... Its great, if I ever do I know I have you and another member who have both offered their help... thank you.

And it pisses me off also, because all I want is to be 100% and I wil be back to work , doing my thing the best way I know how.... Its amusing how its still being acknowledged that we are trying different things to fix me... but they can try to throw me back in there saying there is nothing wrong....

Finally got the meds doin their thing.... may actually take another few more days of LEAVE to enjoy the less pain till I push back into the BS with no meds.....