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okay guys and gals ... i have started to consider getting a hand held firearm for protection. i am not looking for a tiny concealed carry gun. but i will get getting my concealed carry license if i want to carry it in that fashion. my fiancee has her concealed carry and has a taurus 9mm. now i havent shot tons and tons of different guns and i have no idea on who makes a better gun for this and that ... so i am looking for a little direction here .... i have shot my brothers 9mm ruger and .40 S&W at the range with about 50 rounds each
here is what i am looking for ...
i want a gun that is rugged
holds 12-16 round
low recoil
can fix a laser (not red dot) to it
costs under $400
so ... where do i start
What do u mean by this part....?Quote:
Originally Posted by zooguy
Do u plan to open carry?
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Unless its a used Glock etc, I wouldn't trust a sub $400 pistol as my EDC.
For the most part yes I will open carry but I would like my concealed carry for those situations where I would like to hide the fact that I am carryingQuote:
Originally Posted by popo8
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Edc?Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
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every day carry.
And why open carry?
Open carry just makes you the first target when a bad guy comes in. You should seriously reconsider that.
Why? Both of my pistols are sub $400 and have never jammed or had issues with. I know glocks are nice but that doesn't mean you can't defend yourself with something "cheaper"Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
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Just seems to be the common consensus of the interwebz is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunters96lt1
Again, as a NJ resident, I know nothing about firearms.
As mentioned above... and exactly where I was gonna go... OPEN CARRY is one of the dumbest ways of carrying. As mentioned, you make urself the first target which is not what u want... especially if u claim u want to carry for self defense.
A "badguy" will know ur the biggest threat and will hurt or disarm u first...and before u say they wont because u are carrying... they will do it when ir not expecting it.
99% of regular civilians are not trained in weapon retention during an altercation... we as Police Officers train extensivly because we are technically open carrying and we know that makes us the first target.
Remember, a criminal with no firearms, now knows EXACTLY where to get one.
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Time for ammunition to go flying off shelves. Like Paris, more gun laws must be put into place...
Stay away from Taurus. Far too much of a crap shoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by zooguy
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Carrying a little extra with me...
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Stay safe hot fuzzQuote:
Originally Posted by popo8
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I got a bucket of 3.5" 12# BB steel loads, not sure who would hurt more, potential perp or my shoulder.
btw, i linked something earlier regarding po-lice issued glock 19's in the 350 range from the aim surplus website. that is your best bet. problem is, due to current circumstances you will be hard pressed to get one for awhile.
Ill do my best... i just hate the direction everything is going. I keep thinking... if u want to destroy a country... attack their children.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSlowBoat
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Allentown isn't that bad. I worked down town for years. It's like any city, if you're not where you don't belong you won't have any troubles.
M&P shield is a great gun that can be had for around 450 new. I got my used police issue Glock 27 for 350 at a gun show. There's a few options in the 400$ range you just have to do your home work.
But... if u end up in the wrong area... it IS that bad. I was actually hired by Allentown PD. They wanted me badly to work undercover in certain areas of high Arab population...Quote:
Originally Posted by BaddAss93TA
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Looks like any gun control bill was just killed in Senate, try again next time liberals.
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Originally Posted by shownomercy
This is true and if you look at the votes, it was a close one. That being said, short of the terrorist list DQ'ing you for guns I would agree with stricter background checks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SS RRR
In other news, looks like it was confirmed to be a terrorist linked attack.
Yea. It is what it is. I love this city either way, ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by popo8
The fuck you talking about joisey?Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
What are stricter background checks? and how would they stop any of this.?
More people died in paris in one attack than in all combined attacks in all of the years of Barry Husseins presidency.
The liberals are on the same side as isis/terrorist. The best example was this last one... If the neighbor wasn't terrified of being crucified by the political correct left, this last attack would not have happened.
Add in a mental health background check, standard practice in NJ and doesn't bother me the least. NICS doesn't check that last I checked, could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmpowered
Stricter Gun laws wont help anything, it only makes it easier for a tyrannical government to operate. Stricter and enforced immigration and penalties for criminals are the only true answer to todays problems. Stop the rotating door justice system. put the repeat offenders in front of a firing squad. these freaks do this crap because they KNOW they can get away with it. Judges slap their hands and let them go so they can have enough criminals to hold court again, therefore justifying their job security. it all makes sense if you look at it the way judges and lawyers do.
NY has that, hasn't done any bit of good, it does take guns away from veterans with PTSD or other helpless people on vicadin or other drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
It makes people.not see doctors when they need help.
What you are suggesting is just another useless limitation that will only hurt innocent people.
Just bought a new Gen 3 Glock 19. Saw them online for crazy outlandishly expensive prices. Found on locally for what they usually go for. I've wanted one for a while, so...
ALL GUNS SHOULD BE GLAWKS AND ALL GLAWKS SHOULD BE 19'S!
How cool is that???
http://eveerything.com/custom-alumin...slugs-testing/
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It was a cool Idea but they dont work.Quote:
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Is that because the barrels are not "rifled?"Quote:
Originally Posted by superspirit
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You can get a rifled shotgun barrel.
That was gonna be my next response if he said that was why.Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
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There is a reason steel shot sucks and bullets are made of lead. :lol:
Either way, low brass and 20yds is nothing impressive, looks like their too long to cycle so single shot only.
Meh
It could be, but as said there is a reason the bullets and slugs are made of lead, so they can dig in to the rifling of the barrel and start the spin before they come out. the twisted grooves of those aluminum slugs had nothing to grab on to to make them spin, that is why they didnt work IMO. if you check the diameter of a barrel, you will see that it is 1-2 thousands smaller than the bullet or slug going through it so that it can force the bullet to conform to the rifling grooves and get it spinning before it exits the muzzle.Quote:
Originally Posted by popo8
Make the round smaller and apply sabot to outside. Should start the spin and allow the round to continue its rotation after separation.
Just a thought.
Also, there is a reason 00 is 1.5oz at ~1200fps, thats a heavy punch to take.
Whats a aluminum sabot round weigh? Prob ~.7oz Granted it may be moving much quicker but the accuracy is shit so you won't be able to take advantage of the higher speed tradeoff.
Just seems silly, buy a rifle and call it a day.
These guys are jokers and do the stupidest shit. They did titanium too, and shot it stupid close.
You want the heaviest projectile in the smallest package(lead), Retained energy and best BC. This has neither. Why not make one out of paper machete.
Thats also why steel shot sucks. No retained energy downrange.
Throw a paper wad as far as you can then a rock of the same size, same idea.
There are rifled slugs that are very accurate for smooth-bore shotguns.
In other news, Josh Earnest has stated those exercising their constitutional right to buy firearms is "... both ironic and tragic." Yet when asked why he thinks Americans are buying so many guns his reply, "I don’t know, I really don’t.” He doesn't know, but it's okay to demonize something you admittedly aren't aware of. Got it...