The Resurrection: 94 Firebird Formula

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Originally Posted by JOATMON

Have you decided what method you're gonna use to make your instrument cluster speedometer and tachometer work? Did you get the Terminator X that has transmission control? Seems to be more than one way to skin that cat.

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i did not purchase yet, but will most likely just buy the terminator x max, and just shelf the trans harness for a rainy day.

I am not keeping the oem cluster. Will be removing and installing a 3d printed cluster plate/mount for a holley digital display.

you can keep your speedo and tach with a terminator x max (trans control version) as it has vss input abilities, you cannot with a terminator x. you just need to buy a dakota digital box and the efi connection harness has all the wiring ready to be plugged into the dakota digital box including power.

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FYI, from CamaroZ28.com Parts for Sale (only posted yesterday):

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/par...241500-889927/

I have no knowledge of the seller, other than the fact he's been selling stuff there for 12 years.

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Originally Posted by Injuneer

FYI, from CamaroZ28.com Parts for Sale (only posted yesterday):

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/par...241500-889927/

I have no knowledge of the seller, other than the fact he's been selling stuff there for 12 years.

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im gonna go with the efi connection kit since it is plug and play, that version he is selling is the holley ls kit, and i dont feel like doing all the wiring for fans etc lol. thank you though fred and your quiet lurking lol

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I had a feeling you were gonna do yours like SNM. I've already done the research. Just curious which way you were going with yours.
Nolan

Fred, Thats a good price on that Terminator for someone with a LS1

Once you have a LT1 with 24x sensor suite, its an LS1 to any aftermarket ECM.

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Originally Posted by shownomercy

Once you have a LT1 with 24x sensor suite, its an LS1 to any aftermarket ECM.

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That's what I figured when I posted it.

agreed, but that doesnt make the 1994 body harness a 98-02. rather be plug n play like osies. was super easy

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Yep, All the connectors are different. What I meant was it would be a good buy for someone with a LS1 F-Body.
What I think would be a great kit would be the Terminator X Max with a LT1 specific harness with the proper connectors and a Torkhead 24x/1x sensor setup so you wouldn't have to pull the timing cover off.

that is what i was going to do pre-torched valves incident, if the motor was staying in the car.

the crank and cam sensors have to be repinned with the efi connection harness unless you tell them when ordering, then they will send it set correctly for the torqhead sensors

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OK….. I'll butt out and leave this up to the “pros”.

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Originally Posted by Injuneer

OK….. I'll butt out and leave this up to the “pros”.

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youre the pro sir! come back!

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Oh No, you can't do that Fred. We need you here.
Nolan

@Injuneer get back here, i made progress!!!

Catch can done and lines run

pushlock steamline done and run, waiting for some fire sleeve for where it goes under intake, amazon should have it here tomorrow.

yes, its pushlock, with clamps specifically for it, as recommended by redhorse performance (manufactuer) for nhra compliance.

have to clean up other valve cover like i did this one, just a quick sand and a few passes with some diamond polish and a mothers powerball on the drillhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...15159eaa92.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e37840247b.jpg

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Looking good, steam line treatment is interesting.

mildly restored other valvecover so they look kinda okay-ish, i hate wetsanding and polishing lol.

fire sleeve installed on steam line, and breather line to tb complete. I had to make an orifice fitting for the breather line to match how the mighty mouse was plumbed on a stock intake.

have an idea for using a C4 smog pump at the track as a vacuum pump only when spraying. gonna make up 2 lines that i can just disconnect/reroute to the vacuum pump at the track, and hide that catch can in the fender wellhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ea2d0a0efa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...925c614d0c.jpg

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As someone who tried to hid everything from engine bay.... years later, would not recommend. Trying to regular maintaince is a nightmare when shit is buried.

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Originally Posted by shownomercy

As someone who tried to hid everything from engine bay.... years later, would not recommend. Trying to regular maintaince is a nightmare when shit is buried.

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its not really being hidden. it was super close to the alt relocation pulley before and had some nicks from hitting even with me being ziptie certified, but agreed. thats the only "hidden" thingy, is the line front to back under the intake.

your fuel lines 90 into the back of the rails??

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well....just ordered hopefully most of what i need to redo fuel system from filter forward using redhorse performance nhra certed line and fittings. did also get a new fuel filter with a 10 micron stainless element.

and now we wait

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Stainless element eh?

.... Ethanol soon...??

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Originally Posted by shownomercy

Stainless element eh?

.... Ethanol soon...??

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prevent possibility of ethanol related failures

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progress¿ redhorse stuff finally showed up. made the first line. stuff is nice and assembles easy. fire sleeved it just for added protection, and also bought fragola pressure test fittings to verify no leaks.

now it needs to get warmer. even with a 60000 btu torpedo heater, it was too cold today, and too cold to open both doors to get the motor on the k and back together with transhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1c1ecf33ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...074482305c.jpg

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It's been cold in the swamp too, but not as cold as ya'll. BRRRR
Nolan

been slowly plugging away. got all the old fuel lines removed sunday, and mocked up the fpr to the mighty mouse brackethttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9658776f0d.jpg

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@Injuneer @JOATMON @95 blackbird

whatcha think boys?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...37f997f324.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cf94e56408.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...804bb36ac5.jpg

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You got alot done considering you were sick and freezing. Looking good.
I'm liking that MM catch can setup. I've looked at them but haven't coughed up the bucks.
Curious, Does the fresh air hose have a restrictor?

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Originally Posted by JOATMON

You got alot done considering you were sick and freezing. Looking good.
I'm liking that MM catch can setup. I've looked at them but haven't coughed up the bucks.
Curious, Does the fresh air hose have a restrictor?

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yea it does. they ship with basically a pcv fitting for a stock intake with a drilled 3/32nd orifice. I had to drill out a plug to 3/32nd and thats in the passenger valvecover elbow with the new routing. can itself has a check valve on the 6an side going under the elbow, and the breather on top has a check too. so when the 6an check closes, the breather check opens and vents to atmosphere

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Looking good. I wish I had a fraction of the motivation you have.

Stand up radiator? Or just holding it up out of the way?

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Originally Posted by 95 blackbird

Looking good. I wish I had a fraction of the motivation you have.

Stand up radiator? Or just holding it up out of the way?

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just holding it out of the way. gonna grab an ebay bmr style rad cover and redo the ram air box a little since no more maf

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I didn't even know they made them fancy polished SS radiator support covers! Nice.
What fitting did you use on your valve cover breather lines? Is that those NHRA legal fittings with the locknut?
I'm either gonna buy a MM can or fabricate a copy cat. Seems to be the ultimate design, I just can't get myself to bite on the high price. I think my Camaro might benefit from some crankcase vacuum but in the meanwhile I'm running a breather line on both valve covers to a tee, then a hose down to the side of the air filter. I call it a boat engine breather system. I don't know about now, but none of the old boat engines used PCV systems.

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Originally Posted by JOATMON

I didn't even know they made them fancy polished SS radiator support covers! Nice.
What fitting did you use on your valve cover breather lines? Is that those NHRA legal fittings with the locknut?
I'm either gonna buy a MM can or fabricate a copy cat. Seems to be the ultimate design, I just can't get myself to bite on the high price. I think my Camaro might benefit from some crankcase vacuum but in the meanwhile I'm running a breather line on both valve covers to a tee, then a hose down to the side of the air filter. I call it a boat engine breather system. I don't know about now, but none of the old boat engines used PCV systems.

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its all just 6 and 8an pushlock with parker pushlock hose. i dont need nhra burndown tubes, those are only required with methanol/alcohol fuels. ds valvecover is just a 1.25 push in to 8an male fitting, passenger side is the stock plastic elbow with a npt plug drilled for 3/32nd

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I could use some new computer glasses, couldn't tell what they were. Can't hear worth a shit either. Wife has been bitching about it, wants me to get hearing aids. I told her I didn't want hearing aids because then I would be able to hear ALL her bitching.
Carry on.
Nolan

i make it shiny now....bought the bmr rad coverhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e6697b9467.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...36825996f0.jpg

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Dammit thats nice, I didn't even know they made one.

Love it

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im sorry progress is slow. im at a honest point of either gutting/cutting weight out of car/ going full race no more street or just putting it like it was before but updated.

unsure

bought a 98 mustang gt vert to cruise with the family since the kids are scared of this car

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I wish my progress was as "slow" as yours.
Hell man, you got a cruiser, you got a truck and a trailer...... #racecar.

One of these days I'm going to get around to starting a build thread for my shitbox. But I'm so bad at remembering to take pictures and document things as I do them the thread would probably just turn into a big un organized mess.

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Wow, what's wrong with the Scat for cruising? Now I'm beginning to realize why my friend sold both his really fast cars. Could it be they scared the shit out of his wife and young sons?
Nolan

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Originally Posted by 95 blackbird

I wish my progress was as "slow" as yours.
Hell man, you got a cruiser, you got a truck and a trailer...... #racecar.

One of these days I'm going to get around to starting a build thread for my shitbox. But I'm so bad at remembering to take pictures and document things as I do them the thread would probably just turn into a big un organized mess.

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The truck isnt mine, blessed to have a cool boss that told me "why u gonna buy a truck, i got you that to use it". otherwise we wouldnt have the scat pack. the trailer is cheap financed [emoji1787][emoji1787] oh well ill admit it!

anyone who knows me personally knows the car would normally have been running within a week of getting the heads back, but i really honestly got pissed and upset after hurting the heads. i spent the past 18 months before that day taking this car from sitting in @Injuneer driveway for many years to running 9.90 at the track, like fred intended. alot of time and money in that period of time. when the heads got hurt from a new 30 dollar fuel filter element that i just changed failing, i slowed way the hell down on the hardcore drive of working on any cars (to be clear, not just mine, @Ltconvert car isnt finished yet either, which normally would be done too). life also has a way of getting in the way, and with 2 very active in school kids, trying to focus more on the family and spending time with them.

for 13 years ive been running balls to the wall nonstop on cars and work, 50+ hour work weeks plus 3+ hours of commuting a day and its catching up to me already at 34.

sorry for the life story ramble. just finally admitting it, i did lose motivation after the heads got hurt. everything i did in those 18 months was the quest to go faster, and that just suuuucked. im trying to get back into it now that its not terribly cold, but literally i have the energy of 1 day a week usually saturday to do anything on the car.

make a build thread. its fun to look back on all my threads and see how far ive come.

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Originally Posted by JOATMON

Wow, what's wrong with the Scat for cruising? Now I'm beginning to realize why my friend sold both his really fast cars. Could it be they scared the shit out of his wife and young sons?
Nolan

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that is my fiances car i got her for her birthday. she dailys it when there isnt snow on the ground. out of 25k miles ive honestly put maybe 2500 on it LOL.

my grandmother had a sn95 GT vert when i was a kid. always liked the sound and looks of them. grabbed one to cruise with the kids and my nana (she lives with us). the intention is lower it/clean it up cosmetically and be able to drive it wherever i feel like.

the bird is really a drag car thats driven on the street. 5 point harnesses/roll bar/aluminum seats are not back seat or kid friendly, add in everything poly/rod ended, rmvb turbo 400, whiney 12 bolt, nasty solid roller idle/sound/surge, the bird isnt super fun to cruise more than a hour.

Just to make sure everyone understands, NO the bird is NOT going anywhere. just have to make a direction decision before moving forward.

edit: honestly looking at prochargers for the firebird.

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