Beautiful, love that color
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Beautiful, love that color
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Aside from those hideous wagon wheels, it looks great! :D
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12.2 at 112 on motor @Injuneer
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Ugggh. Never ran a 12 on motor. Maybe there's another mouse colony holed up somewhere in there.
12.2 every pass, same mph every pass, car feels strong, but not sure whats upQuote:
Originally Posted by Injuneer
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What kind of 60-foots? That converter is not friendly without the big hit of nitrous. But it still sounds like something is off.
1.71-1.78, car wasnt spinning, didnt matter if i was footbraking it to 3400/2500 or leaving off idle. off idle was the best 60ft at 1.71. last pass she was blowing some black smoke like it was really rich in 3rd. went 12.2 again and put it on the trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Injuneer
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i am curious as to which tune is in here right now, considering it smelled like race gas when i drained the fuel system. think it would be slow on motor if it has the 300 tune in it?
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Should be the NA tune. The last time I took it to Second St they were supposed to give it a good once over, adjust the valves, etc, and load the N2O tune. Got to the track and the nitrous wouldn’t activate. Turned out they left the NA tune in it.
To me the NA launch was always soft. But it generally pulled low 1.6 60’s even feeling soft. The only time anyone ever videoed it, I gave a friend my camera. Lined up against an LT1 Corvette. He pulled me out of the hole but it was easy to run him down. Couldn’t share the video because on the video, as I left my buddy yelled “launched like a pig” and I was too embarrassed to show the video to anyone.
@SSlowBoat did you install the driver mod?
:) - Lots of factors as to why it didn't get into the 11s, but don't sweat it. Just get "two of the big ones" and send it!
so pulled the nitrous jets just to see, since bill of second street asked too, and theres a .055 and a .053, roughly calculates to a 260hp shot. i may go down to a 200 for now, depending on what he says, and if he can tune it all na/nitrous on 1 tune
I am ordering new plug wires and having the injectors checked again, i think one may still be sticky. then i am setting up when to drop the car off to second street to have the tune file updated to version 6.2 since the motec version i have says it has to be (wont let me log or open it, but i can see the pcm though, thanks again @harner )
hopefully when all is said and done we are back to normal on motor and in the 10's on the sauce
oh yeah, picked up some rear 15x10 streetlites, gotta get some new tires though, blew the hoosier qtp's off of them yesterday, sadly no vid
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The numbers I've quoted in the past were based on dyno results.
As-built, the NA engine made 490 HP on the engine dyno (Sunoco 94 octane), and 425 HP on the chassis dyno. 13.27% loss thru the T56 w/ 3.73 gears
Before running the N2O tune, they baselined the NA engine on C16. That bumped the NA engine dyno to 496 HP, attributed to the higher specific energy content of the C16 - more #/gallon. more BTU/#. That way they could see what the N2O added, and not include what the C16 added.
With both stages of the original setup, it made 762.5 HP on the engine dyno, 672 on the chassis dyno. 11.87% loss thru the T56.
That indicates the N2O was a 266 shot.
After swapping in the TH400 and the 4.11 gears, we ran the chassis dyno again. The loss in the TH400 was huge.
The N2O rwHP dropped to 593 HP, a 22.23% loss thru the TH400 w/ 4.11 gears
Then they switched to the single, larger shot, using both the fan jet nozzles.
rwHP increased to 620 HP. Using the same 22.23% loss, that indicated we were now at 797.2 HP at the flywheel, a gain of 34.7 HP.
thank you Fred, that helps alot to understand the process. i found a dyno sheet in the files of the car making 381whp N/A from some point in its history. was wondering what the 593hp sheet was too. bill is confident we can get her running right, just hoping it doesnt cost too muchQuote:
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Even with clogged injectors only going 12.2 on a 1.71 60ft, she hits that tire hard. Love how it just stands up. @Injuneer the suspension looks and feels dialed in.
I sent the injectors to Josh Hamming to have them cleaned. Hopefully he can clean them, because they do not make them anymore. Fingers crossed when they come back we can get some hits on it and find our missing timehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b7cc3dc2f7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3502da36ac.jpg
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Lookin’ good. Miss it.
Suspension by Steve Spohn….. all set up by Steve and his dad. They worked wonders with George Baxter's 30th, when the car was running low 8’s (not an LT1 at that point).
Just got the plug wires changed tonight, few had some mouse damage that was buried and couldnt be seen.
also picked up new/used rear rubber, got a deal on some ET Street SS radials in 275/50/15, these will go on the Street Lites so I dont have to change back wheels for this year atleast. When we get the juice working again we will go back to a 28", for now ill just use osies 28" racestars with et radial pro's if i need to. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a316087e70.jpg
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I can smell some low 11 sec passes coming.
Nolan
Ill just be happy if it runs the same as it did when fred ran it on motor. 11.6-11.8 ill be content....for nowQuote:
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i can smell having 7 good injectors and 1 bad one. now to find an injector they dont make anymore ughQuote:
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What kind of injectors? Odd that they are obsolete?Quote:
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bosch 64lb/hr ev1 low impedance. looks like a pink top can replace it, one for a ski-dooQuote:
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Cool if you can buy one. I was just curious why they went obsolete. These folks might be able to help, they were real easy to work when I bought a new set of 42's. Price was very reasonable on mine. (Lucas paddle 42lb EV1)https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/collections
they dont have low impedance in the size i need, just standard resistanceQuote:
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FWIW I "jerry-rigged" a 12volt source with a push button to do this one time. I think this is a nice $50 kit to do the same. Seems to be a decent tool and you get the injector juice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz3eXDzh7NU
i sent them to someone with an actual setup. he still couldnt get 1 of them to work. is what it isQuote:
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https://www.google.com/search?q=0280...hrome&ie=UTF-8
ONE FOR $20.00 OR EIGHT FOR 129.58 EBAY
Says those part numbers are 65lb ,2.8 ohm, EV1
thats probably what im gonna grab...already found them but they are slightly differentQuote:
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I kind of figured you had already googled them. I was curious about them being low impedance. I'm assuming they are required because of the nature of the drivers in the Motec ECM? Even at my age I'm always learning things.
Nolan
CorrectQuote:
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Seems like 20+ years ago, if you needed “big” injectors, they were all low impedance. I would call Bill. Those came out of Baxter's car, because they weren’t big enough for his next upgrade. I think I paid ~$400 for the used set back then. Running at 58 PSI they were at about max 77% DC in my setup. Injector design has progressed a lot from those days. I believe MoTeC claims a resolution of 1/10,000 second on pulse width. I would suspect the faster opening and closing of the “peak and hold” design takes advantage of that. The MoTeC allows tweeking the injectors by individual cylinder. If you want, I'll call Bill and see what he recommends.
Im gonna give him a call later today, thank you fredQuote:
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We got lucky boys! found a nib injector. these injectors are originally for a 1986 dodge daytona 2.4l sohc tbi injected. they will be installed saturday and we are hopefully back in businesshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1599107c20.jpg
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#forever 12's, but it looks fast.... [emoji3064]
12.2 again. definitely ran better, but with only picking up 1mph and a tenth quicker with fresh injectors and mew plug wires, i think thats all she has right now [emoji2369]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...10b8f2bb64.jpg
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Take it to Atco, it'll bang off an 11!
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shes legal on the street! took her out a little bit today, about 20 miles. whats normal trans temp for this thing @Injuneer ? saw 210 on the gauhe after some stop and go. thinking about a bigger cooler already (verified fan was on and running)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3d335fe869.jpg
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It always seemed that the coolant, oil, and trans temps were in the same range, typically 195-200°F. Keep in mind, it's got a non-locking converter.