LOL... How many transmissions have you built in the past 24 years? I do this every day. I don't have to rely on what somebody else posts who creates their own reality just to sell their product. The difference between Jake and I is very simple. I can build BOTH 4L60Es and 4L80Es for performance. The reason I don't promote the 4L80E is very simple...It's the WRONG application for most vehicles. For some odd reason, you must believe that Jake has a magic wand that allows him to defy the laws of physics. You do understand the laws of physics, right? Anyone who has been around anything mechanical knows that more internal rotating weight will cost horsepower. It's the reason engines are built with lightweight parts. See, if you had any real clue about automatic transmissions other than what you're falsely led to believe, you'd know what people do to Super Stock transmissions to reduce the internal roataing weight. Why do you think the largest percentage of drag cars run Powerglides? Because they don't eat horsepower because they have less rotating weight. We use aluminum drums, and swiss cheesed internal in TH350s and TH400s to get internal weight to a minimum. Again, I ask that you tell me how any 4L80E defies the laws of physics? You don't know because you have absolutely no knowledge of transmissions or physics, apparently. I've already stated that it's difficult for us to do a modern day comparison because nobody with any sense is doing a 4L80E swap for us to use as back to back comparisons. We've already did it all, and we've already proved it. Why would I get a customer (or myself) to waste good money on a 4L80E swap just to appease someone like you? There are a couple facts that are undeniable. First, Jakes can't build a capable 4L60E, so he peddles 4L80Es. Second, I build both and I've more than proved the capabilities of my 4L60Es.
Frank

