Bingo! there was not enough tongue weight, when i unhooked i could lift the tongue with one hand. but there is a lot of stuff going on the front of the trailer, ATV, engine hoist, engine stand...ill be at about 5-600lbs of tongue weight. loaded it that way because thats how it came out of the garage and with a spool rear and lack of steering its hard to turn around. but there is a lot of stuff going on the front of the trailer.

