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Honestly, it is entirely possible that they are manufactured at a plant in Stone Mountain Georgia in bulk and shipped out in bulk by truck to a facility in NC where they are shipped to customers on an as ordered basis.
And no, I'm not defending now, just being truthful.
However, yes, it would certainly be irrefutable proof to put an end to this.
I agree that is possible. But what I would disagree with is that the manufacturing plant would produce specific batches of the same product to different venders specifications, but label & package them the same under another brand name. If they are 321 SS made in GA great, but how are the headers we received different than the same LT1 F-body XS Power headers produced & sold for $449 shipped, if they are not labeled and packaged any differently...Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkknight039
Your right, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badazz96z28
Again, smoke and mirrors shell game.
His explanation still doesn't make sense about XS Power involvement. As I'm understanding, he has outsourced his designs and specs to them to build his item out of his specified material so that, I assume, he can sell them as his header. But they are tagged as XS Power and shipped in XS Power packaging? So when the customer gets it, sees XS Power, they would naturally assume there was a mistake made. The customer gets no response from the vendor so they look up XS Power and contact them, they are told that their headers are made from 304 stainless made in China. The customer says he bought them from LPP they are told then they need to take up the issue with the vendor the purchased it from, not XS Power.
And then the customer gets accused of being part of some sort of performance header conspiracy to destroy that particular vendor.
Again... im trying to remain unbiased, didnt I see he wrote before that the American car headers are made in the us out of the other type of metal as compared to the tuner stuff which is made in china for the tuner cars?
I need to go back through but i thought i remember him explaining that above.
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While I understand what you are saying...Quote:
Originally Posted by popo8
Considering I can buy XS Power headers for an LT1 made from 304 stainless made in China, no and that was from XS Power when I contacted them. And despite that, the headers still arrived in XS Power packaging and XS Power plates welded on the headers so who in the heck would know what they actually got when they thought they were purchasing LPP headers made of 321 made in Georgia?
So, basically, even if that were true, it's irrelevant because how is a buyer to know that when all the evidence points to the contrary which is what I've been saying.
Correct, he stated that.Quote:
Originally Posted by popo8
He also stated that XS Power produces headers to his specifications, that are different than the other LT1 headers they produce that can be purchased through other venders and eBay. The problem I have is IF XS Power makes headers specifically for him, why are they labeled and packaged the same as the LT1 headers they make for other venders? How can we the customer, and even Carl the vender, identify that what we receive are HIS LT1 specific headers if they are in no way at all marked differently than the others they produce and ship?
I dont have any amswers Im just following along trying to help get us all through this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badazz96z28
The xs label he said is that they still wanted credit for making the lpp pieces. That was my suspicion earlier... so it makes sense to me.
I only have to go off of what he says and what people who buy them have said. Again... unbiased in the middle here.
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