What makes certain turbos better then others ? Billet wheels ? Larger wheels ? I know an 88 to another 88 can't be comparing apples to oranges but what makes the difference ?
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What makes certain turbos better then others ? Billet wheels ? Larger wheels ? I know an 88 to another 88 can't be comparing apples to oranges but what makes the difference ?
Plate kit is a grand from nitrous outlet .
Direct port is about double that .
My only argument is nitrous is nitrous . The more spray you put to it the more it'll make (to a certain point) where the motor can't ingest any more
Same with a turbo . A 1000 cfm coming from two different head units are going to make very close power, one may be higher or lower in the rpm range due to sizing
So with spray why not just limit people ... there's not a single reason direct ports shouldn't be allowed , the reason they haven't been allowed is because they've always not been allowed . And for fear that some guy came in with a huge motor spraying a 300 would dominate the class ... or if you rwanted to limit them and give plate guys a slight advantage . Put plate and nozzle guys at a 200 and direct ports at 150. Idk.
I'm just merely looking at it from my stand point is all. I like opinions and seeing what others think about it
That is funny actually. I know i guy with a lower end turbonetics turbo, dont remember exact numbers, but say 650 at 12 psi. He later switched to a slightly smaller, ball bearing turbo with billet wheels, and made barely more hp on 2-3 psi less because of the efficiency of the new turbo. The new turbo was also about $2k. So is someone with an old journal bearing 88mm the same potential as a brand new turbo? Dont think so. Just depe ds if they wanna push it or not...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawdaw
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How about Columbus day weekend in early October? Weather is cooler, kids are back in school and life is getting back to a new normal from summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackbirdws6
Exactly. Hell the guys at yank even called to make sure I wanted an 80e converter because it slows you down a little compared to a 60e because of the gearing and parasitic loss. Then I get to have a 200lb penalty on top of it! :shiner:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZOHAN
Bill
The only thing I can sort of thing of for penalizing the 80e is you can sloppy mod it to have a T brake, without having a "T brake". Where as a 60e, well, a T brake doesn't even exist :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by green96ta
But, ES NA is a min weight of 3300, so I really don't see what you are worried about unless you really wanna gut that car. For me, ModPA was a 3100 min and my car rolls around at 3660 so, its really of no concern. Unless you are @dawdaw and drive a 2000lb tin can. ;)
NO. I want to keep the car full weight. Its a Street Car. Why I am bringing it up is for two reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
1. There really isn't a reason to have a penalty for it. I could understand if someone modded it to have a tbrake, then penalize them by all means.
2. I am going 24x conversion which also carries a 200lb penalty. So that means my total penalties will be 400lb. Bringing my minimum weight to 3700+ lbs which my car with me in it only weighs 3600 right now. Meaning I will have to add weight. This is what I mentioned in my original post a few pages back.
Bill
Your TA weighs 3600 with you in it?
I just can't see that, but add in a 80e and decent rear end, you should make the min weight no issue.
If you took your big ass out of the unicorn and all that heavy turbo junk yours would weigh less then mine ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by shownomercy
Its a 50/50 on the trans thing . I personally don't see why they get hit with a weighty penalty because they already add more weight and more rotating mass but then there's the other side of the coin where others say nothing more then oem which is a 60e ...Quote:
Originally Posted by green96ta
Maybe could ask to meet in the middle with just a 50 or 100 lb weight hit ?