FI Build Idea

my goal is to be some wear in the mid 500 range and this will still be a street driven car, with the occasional weekend at the track and of course the shootout some day....lol

so this is what i am thinking;

P-1SC
383 short block
AFR 210cc heads
Blower cam by LE
stock intake porte by LE/possibly LT4
58mm TB
60lb+ injectors
340lph pump
24x conversion
Pacesetter LT's
built 700r4/4l60
12bolt w/3.42s

input and ideas are more then welcome. and yea i know that the D1 or F1 blowers are better, but i am trying to stay in a budget.

-Tony

id assume you would need more injector, why not TFS 21 degree heads ported by lloyd there around 1000 bare 1400 assembled so there reasonably priced.

this i why i put this up here, i did not even think about the TFS heads, and i have also been thinking about the injectors, more then likely i will end up more with 60#. this is just the basic plan, the build wont start till this winter. so now im just trying to pick the minds of them procharged guys out there.

-Tony

this is per a convo i had with le about the 21* heads
we can do the 21 degree TFS heads for $2000 if we go back with the TFS springs, 2.02/1.60 valves, TFS valve job, etc.

We can step up to a 2.05/1.60 valve set up for $2200.

The limiting factor on these heads will be the cross section over the shortside and at the pushrod pinch. The 23 degree heads with 2.02/1.60 valves (or upgrade to 2.08/1.60 valve) will flow even better and make even more power. These can be milled down to a 58 cc chamber then use a .028" GM 12553160 head gasket and still have good compression.

the 23 degree heads are $200 less than the 21 degree heads.
granted my app;ication is different from yours but i'm just putting it out there for ya

i can guarantee that i will have a good conversation with LE before i make any type of head choice. and it is my nature to over think stuff but i just want to make sure its all going to work well together.

-Tony

just heard back from LE about my top end i think i got that all figured out....now just waiting on Clayton racing to email me back.....and as of know its looking like i will be right about where i was guessing $$$$$ wise....

I have LE 23* Trickflows, haven't used em yet but they sure look sweet. Id do 60# injectors, ditch the walbro and get a Bosch 044 (or 040) from JayRacing for $189 and put it in the tank (WAY more reliable and flow about 340lph IIRC, I'm NOT a Walbro guy, running dual 044s actually). Screw dual ICs, just run a big one in the nose and cut it out, I'd think it'd be better IATs being more air flows thru it than horizontal ICs. Good deal on the 24x, I have it and its pretty nice even tho its not in the car, the harness looks 10x better than factory. They even extended a handful of connectors for things I've relocated. Oh and don't forget tires! Just IMO tho.

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Originally Posted by CamaroZGuy

P-1SC procharger w/duel intercoolers - You'll max out a P-1SC. Go with a D-1SC. Go for a single front mount intercooler, trash the duals.
383 short block, by Clayton Racing - Sounds good.
AFR 195 ported by LE - See others' comments about heads. There are better choices out there.
Blower cam by LE - I've got an LE blower cam too. Works out well so far.
stock intake porte by LE - Sounds good.
58mm TB - Sounds good.
42lb injectors - Too small, but you already know that. 60's, 72's would do.
255lph intank pump - I personally went with dual Walbro 255's in-tank. Used a hobbs switch to activate the second pump at 5psi. It's not the volume you really need, just the bump in fuel pressure to maintain.
24x conversion - Great choice. I have the 24x conversion on my setup (See my sig) and I'd never have it any other way.
PaceSetter LT headers - I'd go with a Kooks or LPP setup, but to each their own. This is a preference deal here, but try to go with a stepped header for more flow.
built 700r4/4l60 - Sounds good
12bolt w/3.42s - I'd assume you're going with a higher stall, I'd go with a higher gear as well. 3.73's are still streetable, and will help you out at the track. Mine's a street car, and I've got 3.90's in mine.

input and ideas are more then welcome. and yea i know that the D1 or F1 blowers are better, but i am trying to stay in a budget.
^^^^ LOL, didn't read that line too closely the first time around. Try to save up a bit more money, you'll kick yourself in the ass for not going with a D1. You'll start with the P1, be happy, turn it up until it's maxed out, want more, then sell the P1 for a fraction of what you paid for it, then you're further upside down on a D1 than you would be if you just went with the D1 from the beginning.

Another word from the wise, and a member of the "been there, done that" crowd:
Take that budget, and throw it out the window. You will NOT make your budget, unless you take your "pipe dream" budget, and multiply it by somewhere between 2 and 3.

Save your money, do this once, and do it right.

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End rant.

^^^thats what i was looking for^^^

and yes, i am looking for a sweet deal on a D1, but right i will be getting a P1, yes i know i will probably max it and say "dam i want more". and i know about how the "budget" works i am already thinking about that. and the headers i have already changed my mind to run steeped headers. but i may end up with my current pacesetters for a wile since them kooks are pricey. and by no means will this be a quick build, i get back to the states in Nov and i am hoping to have it done for the shoot out 2012.

QC97Z- i have actually been waiting for either you, CALL911 or POPO to chime in since i know you guys have Procharged cars, and through the process i will probably want to pick your guys minds... :D

PS- in no means do i see that as a rant!

Feel free to tap into us for help/issues. At this time, I'm the only one of the 3 of us with the 24x system, so those questions can be directed toward me if you'd like.

You should see if there are any LPP "Batch #2" headers still lying around out there....Kooks quality without the high price!