cop going 94mph w/o lights and sirens hits and kills 2 teens

[BLK95TA]

YouTube- Dash Cam: Cop Kills 2 Teens in Car Crash

[95formula383lt1]

holy shit!

[Chris]

What was he trying to get the other cop to race him or something ?

[Z28pr0jekt]

reports say he wasn't on a call at all and there were suspicions of the 2 cops racing

[5POINT7]

wow crazy, thats ashame for those teens, those cops are screwed. if the lights were on, it would be a different story. they at least would have shown some warning

[warnerTA]

wow! thats crazy.

[bsgreenz]

Wow i really hope that the cop gets the full punishment that any of us would get for this one.. What the hell was he thinking?

[black hawk]

yup, the dashboard cam sealed their fait.... " was the cop at fault? " hhmm.. yes, and no, one could argue the teens failed to yeld at an intersection but the dash cam showing the cop speeding/racing? will send the cop who the kids to the electric chair and the one with the video cam many many years behind bars

[bluebird94]

That's awful. And they do that all the time. I'm always getting passed by cops going way too fast without lights/sirens. Why??

[Ryan Stout]

Not to argue, but how was the cop with the camera doing anything wrong? Looks to me like the other cop was being a dousche.

[Transamman25]

Popo will chime in on this I'm sure but when cops fly by you and they are on call they have 3 different levels. Codes 1-3, code 1 no lights no sirens, code 2 lights only, and 3 lights and sirens all depending on what the situation calls for.

If those cops weren't on a call then they deserve whats coming to them.

[jaysz2893]

As much as we are supposed to respect authority, cops are human. This one cop seems to fall under the category of humans I call "Jack Asses" (being polite). Sometimes people in levels of authority feel they are above the law, history has shown that MANY times. This is what happens when Karma steps in and knocks you down a notch. I would never want to be a cop, I HATE people and would shoot just about everyone that pissed me off (whiich is easy to do). We have a cop on the boards, and as far as I can tell he is a good guy. Apparently this cop had some issues. I have had run in's with cops with issues in the past, but for the most part most cops I know are decent guys. This being all said, I hope that this cop's status as a cop does not buy him privledges. If the story is true (he will still have his day in court - remember innocent untill proven guilty) he will have to suffer the conseqenses. I have friend that killed a friend(the passenger)in H.S. during a drunk Driving accident. Believe me the amount of time he spent in Juvi and then incarceration and the punitive damages still pale in comparison to the lasting memory of what he did almost 20 years ago.

[96lt1m6]

No matter the outcome many people have been affected by this.....It is easy to assume what the circumstances are/were! keep in mind there are also calls that do go to certain dispatched unit(s) and also first responding unit! video can depict a certain incident however without all info NO ONE can determine liability again read my first sentance.

[Z28pr0jekt]

Like I said before, those cops were NOT on call, read the news report it has already been confirmed. And the cop filming may also be in trouble because his speed was established to be 74mph or something of that nature.

[secretasianman]

I read an article about this. It didn't mention any speeds. http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/news_wtnh_orange_accident_kills_two_teens_injures_ officers_tape_released_200910271709_rev1
If the officer was at fault he should be punished, but at this point it's unfair to say he did anything wrong. A tradegy either way.

[Z28pr0jekt]

man ya'll don't like to listen much

http://news.aol.com/article/milford-connecticut-police-officer-jason/773587

happy now?

[Huff035]

man ya'll don't like to listen much

http://news.aol.com/article/milford-connecticut-police-officer-jason/773587

happy now?

Wow, that is some crazy shit...

[secretasianman]

man ya'll don't like to listen much

http://news.aol.com/article/milford-connecticut-police-officer-jason/773587

happy now?

Bad news for the officers involved. IF the officer involved in the crash is found guilty, then he deserves whatever punishment given by the judicial system.

[Phstratton]

Not to argue, but how was the cop with the camera doing anything wrong? Looks to me like the other cop was being a dousche.

I agree. It didn't look like he was doing anything. They more than likely had the same model car so if he really wanted to race then it would be even and the other car wouldn't have been so far ahead.

[Huff035]

I agree. It didn't look like he was doing anything. They more than likely had the same model car so if he really wanted to race then it would be even and the other car wouldn't have been so far ahead.

He accelerated when the other officer passed him. The other cop looks to have done a fly by so no they wouldnt have been side by side.

[5POINT7]

wow, their done. and Im sure theirs going to be a lawsuit.

[popo8]

Popo will chime in on this I'm sure but when cops fly by you and they are on call they have 3 different levels. Codes 1-3, code 1 no lights no sirens, code 2 lights only, and 3 lights and sirens all depending on what the situation calls for.

If those cops weren't on a call then they deserve whats coming to them.


You are absolutly right, altho not all PDs use the "code" terminology, there are many reasons a cop COULD BE going to a call "HOT" even with no lights or sirens.... without knowing if those reasons were something we as spectators we can take into consideration, all I can say is...

I feel bad for ALL involved...

[popo8]

yup, the dashboard cam sealed their fait.... " was the cop at fault? " hhmm.. yes, and no, one could argue the teens failed to yeld at an intersection but the dash cam showing the cop speeding/racing? will send the cop who the kids to the electric chair and the one with the video cam many many years behind bars


There will be NO chair or death penalty involved.... even if carless, or reckless on the cops behalf.... Im sure no "MALICE" was intended....

[popo8]

That's awful. And they do that all the time. I'm always getting passed by cops going way too fast without lights/sirens. Why??


there are lots of reasons "WHY"... I cant say any of those reasons pertain in this case... but there are lots of reasons to answer WHY cops drive fast without lights....or sirens....

[popo8]

I read an article about this. It didn't mention any speeds. http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/news_wtnh_orange_accident_kills_two_teens_injures_ officers_tape_released_200910271709_rev1
If the officer was at fault he should be punished, but at this point it's unfair to say he did anything wrong. A tradegy either way.


100% correct... INOCENT until PROVEN guilty....

[popo8]

wow, their done. and Im sure theirs going to be a lawsuit.


one thing I have learned... THERE IS ALWAYS a lawsuit... right or wrong.....

[Z28pr0jekt]

You still disregard the affidavit that states they were not on call.

[popo8]

You still disregard the affidavit that states they were not on call.


I disagree that unless EITHER ONE OF US, were THERE.... neither one of us..... can make judgment on this.....

[Z28pr0jekt]

We don't have to be there. the facts were established or did you not read the article i posted

"An arrest affidavit says a Milford police officer charged with manslaughter for a car crash that killed two teenagers was driving 94 miles per hour and was not on an emergency call."

[5POINT7]

I disagree that unless EITHER ONE OF US, were THERE.... neither one of us..... can make judgment on this.....

I agree 100%


nobody here was involved, so their is no point in arguing....its ashame what happened, justice will get served...end of story...:hammer:

[popo8]

I agree 100%


nobody here was involved, so their is no point in arguing....its ashame what happened...end of story...:hammer:


agreed... Im done going round and round....

[Wooshie]

I am on the fence. Z28project has the facts from the article right, but I feel bad for all parties involved and don't feel right passing judgement or assigning blame. My prayers to the families of ALL parties because none of their lives will be the same.

[popo8]

I am on the fence. Z28project has the facts from the article right, but I feel bad for all parties involved and don't feel right passing judgement or assigning blame. My prayers to the families of ALL parties because none of their lives will be the same.


well said.....

[Wooshie]

Thank you sir!

[Bowtie4Life]

there was something about a year or so ago in orlando where an orlando police officer was going 100+ at like 2am or something like that, no lights or sirens going, and rear ended an 18 yr old who is now a veg, and all he got was two weeks administrative leave so far, I'm sorry Popo, but that kinda shit pisses me off, just because the guy is a cop, he gets a slap on the wrist compaired to if it was an average person. I know that cops are putting themselves in harms way everyday, and I respect them for that, but when stuff like this happens, their penalty needs to be closer to what the average citizen would recieve, as far as the severity of it.

[97ForMuLa]

police always drive fast and reckless with their lights off because they are GOD... didnt you all know that?

[popo8]

police always drive fast and reckless with their lights off because they are GOD... didnt you all know that?


Debate+ignorant comments= a thread that goes no where......

[97ForMuLa]

police issue citations for stuff to others that they are doing legally means that police are theoretically better than the average person. If you consider man equal to one another and understand that police are no longer equal to the average person, there is no reason a police officer couldn't think that they are in fact god.

[Z28pr0jekt]

police issue citations for stuff to others that they are doing legally means that police are theoretically better than the average person. If you consider man equal to one another and understand that police are no longer equal to the average person, there is no reason a police officer couldn't think that they are in fact god.

Somebody has to enforce the laws of the land, otherwise there is anarchy and senseless violence and deaths.

Laws without enforcement are about as useful as a socket wrench with no sockets

[popo8]

Somebody has to enforce the laws of the land, otherwise there is anarchy and senseless violence and deaths.

Laws without enforcement are about as useful as a socket wrench with no sockets


Incredible ANALOGY.... and I agree, even the Police require Policing....because when it comes down to it, cops are people.... being an Officer is a job... dont get me wrong its also a life style... but in the end... its a JOB...

[97ForMuLa]

i find it hard to believe that policeman police each other.

[BLK95TA]

Somebody has to enforce the laws of the land, otherwise there is anarchy and senseless violence and deaths.

Laws without enforcement are about as useful as a socket wrench with no sockets


what would happen if you saw a cop speeding for no reason and followed him and flashed your lights to pull him over and place him under citizens arrest?

[97ForMuLa]

what would happen if you saw a cop speeding for no reason and followed him and flashed your lights to pull him over and place him under citizens arrest?Funny you should ask.
YouTube- I pulled over a cop
apparently they evade arrest, then refuse to satisfy your concerns, threaten you, and make you wait in the cold.

[AZ2ENVY]

Damn kids and their civics and bad grammar skillz lol . On another note that Sheriff
looked a little scared hah

[popo8]

Funny you should ask.
YouTube- I pulled over a cop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quf0ihNEdmI)
apparently they evade arrest, then refuse to satisfy your concerns, threaten you, and make you wait in the cold.


WOW, and this to you is how you feel.... things should be.... ?

[97ForMuLa]

i dont know what your trying to say, but it seems like you think what i said was somehow incorrect????

[5POINT7]

if he thinks your incorrect, there is nothing wrong with that, everyone is entitled to thier opinion.

[popo8]

what would happen if you saw a cop speeding for no reason and followed him and flashed your lights to pull him over and place him under citizens arrest?


TRY IT.

[popo8]

i dont know what your trying to say, but it seems like you think what i said was somehow incorrect????


And what Im asking you is do you think that was correct, proper, the right thing to do......?

[97ForMuLa]

you didnt specify which party of the incident i should be analyzing so i will do both.
On the citizens part, no i dont feel it was correct of him to speed and run stop signs (which the cop does as well), however he felt angry at the situation that the officer was able to get away with endangering the general public (the officer was not on call and got reprimanded for this incident)
On the officers part, if he was on an assignment to go help someone and had his lights on i do not see a problem with it. The fact of the matter is he was not on assignment and was endangering the public (again, running stop signs, etc). The way he handled the situation was HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE. Police are meant to protect and serve the general public, not ignore their concerns and threaten them with unjustified threats.
The fact of the matter is, it shouldnt be this way in the first place. Police have brought this upon themselves (before you get all defensive i am not calling you out, its the past and officers before you). It is a very tough and highly controversial job, i dont think i could do it properly, but i feel that many of the officers out there are in the same boat—they shouldnt be entrusted with the amount of authority that they have over other peoples' lives.

[Blubird]

holy shit!

my thoughts exactly!

[Tarheel'Z']

i can agree and disagree with alot of post in this thread as i try to keep my mouth shut,,but the one thing that bugs me is some of us are quick to crucify all "cops" for the mistakes made by a few,,yeah i said mistakes,,you dont think the cop that killed the teens got up that morning and said "i think ill kill a couple teens today",,,nope,,probably kissed his wife and kids goodbye just like alot of us do,,but he made a mistake that turned out to be a devastating one,,that cop could be my brother or uncle or whatever etc,,i dont think hes a monster even though the result of his action make it easy to go that route,,just like anything else when your talking about the thousands and thousands of law enforcment officers out there unfortunatly all of them are not gonna be perfect angels that never screw up..i just think there are alot of good officers out there and i respect what they do and wont hesitate to call on there assistance if i or my family should need it,,just my .02

[97ForMuLa]

i agree with you. I just think its funny that cops commit the same crimes that they are supposed to be policing.

[5POINT7]

i agree with you. I just think its funny that cops commit the same crimes that they are supposed to be policing.whats behind their badge. a citizen just like everyone else. where all human. everyone makes mistakes. when cops make a mistake, they should recieve the same sentence, as a regular citizen.

I think him losing his job, the lawsuits he'll have, going to jail, and having these teens on his mind for the rest of his life, is good form of punishment for him. he shouldnt be treated any different because of the job he chooses to do. would this be all over the news if it was "john doe" nope the only reason it is everywhere is because of what he does for a living.

[Toronto_LT1]

very well said guy's.watching that horrific video sends chills down my spine. my prayers goes out the families of both parties involved.i could just imagine the hardship,sorrow and pain they're going through right now..:(


i can agree and disagree with alot of post in this thread as i try to keep my mouth shut,,but the one thing that bugs me is some of us are quick to crucify all "cops" for the mistakes made by a few,,yeah i said mistakes,,you dont think the cop that killed the teens got up that morning and said "i think ill kill a couple teens today",,,nope,,probably kissed his wife and kids goodbye just like alot of us do,,but he made a mistake that turned out to be a devastating one,,that cop could be my brother or uncle or whatever etc,,i dont think hes a monster even though the result of his action make it easy to go that route,,just like anything else when your talking about the thousands and thousands of law enforcment officers out there unfortunatly all of them are not gonna be perfect angels that never screw up..i just think there are alot of good officers out there and i respect what they do and wont hesitate to call on there assistance if i or my family should need it,,just my .02


whats behind their badge. a citizen just like everyone else. where all human. everyone makes mistakes. when cops make a mistake, they should recieve the same sentence, as a regular citizen.

I think him losing his job, the lawsuits he'll have, going to jail, and having these teens on his mind for the rest of his life, is good form of punishment for him. he shouldnt be treated any different because of the job he chooses to do. would this be all over the news if it was "john doe" nope the only reason it is everywhere is because of what he does for a living.