Crash. 08-30-2013

[Ugod02010]

My poor formula. Anyone tried to fix similar damage or do ya think its toast? I went over a couple hillsides and big ass tree stumps. It has the floorboard pretty bent out of shape, and the front tire o. The drivers side is smashed into the fender.

[popo8]

Pics???

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[Ugod02010]

23305There we go it was giving me a hard time earlier

[Ugod02010]

23306I'm just loading one at a time so my phone 23306don't go apeshit on me

[Ugod02010]

23307Here's the underside. The rear bracket that connects frame rails. It got pretty hard when I came back down from my dukes of hazard jump! It is still raining outside so this afternoon ill get the car up and get some better pics. Just trying to get an idea of what u guys think about a possible repair.

[popo8]

23307Here's the underside. The rear bracket that connects frame rails. It got pretty hard when I came back down from my dukes of hazard jump! It is still raining outside so this afternoon ill get the car up and get some better pics. Just trying to get an idea of what u guys think about a possible repair.

Book value is low...its all gonna depend on insurance estimate.

60-80% of value will total it.

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[Ugod02010]

I can't tell if something is bent my hood doesn't wanna close w/out really pushing on it. And the fender on the driverside is against the door so the door doesn't wanna open w/out hitting the fender.

[SMok3 Em A11]

Holy shit bro I just shed a tear for ya.:eek::eek::eek:

You may be looking at parting this one out and investing in another. I'm not expert on this type of accident tho just an opinion I made as soon as I saw the seats all outta wack.

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[Ugod02010]

The worst part is I only have liability so I don't think any of this is covered. Kinda think its all gonna be on me

[ZOHAN]

I can't see the pics for some reason but I'm sorry to hear it man

Making you silky smooth...

[SSlowBoat]

Best bet is part it

[MeanTA]

Sorry to see this man! But It's toasted. Part out what you can. And get a new one

[Ugod02010]

The floor was rusted pretty bad to begin with I saw it the day I bought the car but didn't realize it was as bad as it is. He had a piece of sheet metal riveted to basically hold everything together. But good news i guess is there's a lot of stuff that's still good on the body/interior. So if I tear everything apart and hold onto engine,trans, rear end (already has 3.73s) and pcm since I just got a socketed one. I should have enough to pick up a good shell.

[Ugod02010]

Probably keep my wagon wheels too. They've really grown on me.

[firebird_1995]

Sorry to see this man. Keep the whole thing until you get the other on the road. Having a parts car to pick off of is like have an autozone in your backyard.

[popo8]

The worst part is I only have liability so I don't think any of this is covered. Kinda think its all gonna be on me

Then yes... U are out of pocket. Dont even tell ur ins co.

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[Ugod02010]

That's for sure about the parts car. Especially in the past 8months I had it all the parts I put into it, under it, on it lol

[Ugod02010]

Well I was really hoping on climbing under and checking the extent of damage, and also popping that wheel off to see there as well but I have so much going on now. Ugh. It's first on my list tomorrow morning. I'll get some more pics up as I tear it down(hopefully to put back together) but not counting on it. One thing that does look kinda promising is the door gaps and everything still seem okay on the passenger side. And behind the door on the drivers side. Fingers crossed but I've been searching the classifieds. Also if anyone knows of a roller let me know I'd like a t/a this time around. I'm in south western pa. Bout an hr east of Pittsburgh.

[JPack]

Sorry to see this man but it is a total. Good luck on finding a decent replacement.

[noice]

Unibody cars are easy to crumple and hard to fix. It would take a quality frame man to fix the sub structure.

[SMok3 Em A11]

I'm actually considering rid of my trans am roller I'm in south eastern Virginia. Text me tomorrow and I can give you more details 757 947 8626..Chris.

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[popo8]

I'm actually considering rid of my trans am roller I'm in south eastern Virginia. Text me tomorrow and I can give you more details 757 947 8626..Chris.

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Nice.... That works out well.

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[Ugod02010]

I noticed how easily they crumple!!! I don't think I actually killed the frame part of the body structure looked like it was more of the floor pan. Maybe I'm just in denial. Ill get some pics shortly

[popo8]

I noticed how easily they crumple!!! I don't think I actually killed the frame part of the body structure looked like it was more of the floor pan. Maybe I'm just in denial. Ill get some pics shortly

Thats where they twist... The soft floor that connects the frames (front/rear)

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[wysemunky]

RIP formula

[meissen]

Sorry to hear. How'd it happen?

[SMok3 Em A11]

Well lucky for him we are working a.deal on a 96t/a roller so he will be able to swap everything over and be back rolling in no time.

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[popo8]

Well lucky for him we are working a.deal on a 96t/a roller so he will be able to swap everything over and be back rolling in no time.

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I was curious...but didnt wanna push.....

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[SMok3 Em A11]

I was curious...but didnt wanna push.....

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Guess I didn't have to post it anyway lol. Worked out great.

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[popo8]

Guess I didn't have to post it anyway lol. Worked out great.

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LOL... but in your case...your car lives on....

[SMok3 Em A11]

And much sooner than if id have been able to get I back rolling. We shall see we are still working out details.

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[wysemunky]

+1 for the LTX community.

[SSlowBoat]

Sorry to see this man. Keep the whole thing until you get the other on the road. Having a parts car to pick off of is like have an autozone in your backyard.

This ^ my z isnt wrecked but its rotted up just the same, so im just gonna pick and pull and bolt on the formula. Youre better off that way. Good luck man, cant wait to see what you get

[SMok3 Em A11]

He may end up with this!! Without the 18s though.

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[popo8]

He may end up with this!! Without the 18s though.

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Love it!

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[SMok3 Em A11]

Me too I will cry on the way home after dropping it off. Lol

9yrs ago this month I registered this car for the first time.

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[SSlowBoat]

Daaamn thats noice

[popo8]

Happy Anniversary... let me know if the deal falls through. ;)

[SMok3 Em A11]

Daaamn thats noice

Its a 10 footer lol but thanks. Not quite in that good of shape now but ahead cleans up nice.

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[popo8]

Pm sent

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[Ugod02010]

Beat me 2 posting about finding one. Lol. Actually both two cars will get to live again. I kinda wanted a white one to begin with, the red has really grown on me tho. But the couple if 4th gen birds that are still around most are red 2 or 3 black ones but no whites. So it will be different. Depending on how far gone paint really is I may redo white. I have a good bit of foremist orange metallic from painting our grand am too. Descisions descisions. Hate changing colors tho so much extra work. Hey Chris I forgot to ask what color white is that now?

[popo8]

White is def sexy....

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[SMok3 Em A11]

It is factory white. Not sure What options of white were offered. The only after market paint is on the hood and spoiler.

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[Ugod02010]

Coming from the guy w/ a white z. Lol

[Ugod02010]

Popo would it be arctic white? On the 96 bird

[popo8]

Coming from the guy w/ a white z. Lol

Lol...duh...hahaha.

Idk what the official name is.

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[Ugod02010]

I started trying to tear some things off today. I would like to find the engineer who decided it would be a good idea to put a big torques bolt underneath the headlight housing. Took me almost an hr and a half to get em out. Ugh. I am looking forward to a ttop lt1 car. But after seeing how easily the floors crumple I am def. investing in the subframe connectors. Lol

[Ugod02010]

23523Underside on the drivers side lca

[Ugod02010]

23524That hole is supposed to be round.
This is the master cyl. The mounting bolts that hold the strut are touching

[Ugod02010]

Here's a better shot23526
this is the rear brace under where the d/s and exhaust an stuff

[Ugod02010]

23528Good shot of how far bent the floor is

[popo8]

Musta been one hell of a ride man.

[SMok3 Em A11]

Dam dude well keep pulling parts I'm gonna clean up the t/a today and take some pics.

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[Ugod02010]

I kinda wish there was a camera somewhere around so I could at least have a video of my jump. I'm sure it looked pretty cool. All I seen was hill, sky, dirt,sky, neon. Oh shit!!!! Sux that the bird is dead but at least I found a good roller for a price that I can swing pretty quickly. He is supposed to get a power washer to clean all the grime from sitting, and get me some pics of paint, inside and underneath. So I can see what I'm gonna be working with and what I am gonna need from mine. And what I can put on the classifieds and get some of my money back. Think the new car I'm gonna name the pheonix

[SSlowBoat]

What year is the car?

[SMok3 Em A11]

The wrecked car is a 95 I believe. My roller he's going to but is a 96.

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[Ugod02010]

Yep 95. Motor and trans is 94. I'm thinking about using my PCM for everything. What all am I gonna have to change around

[SSlowBoat]

Nothing plug your 94 pcm into the 96 harness or 95 harness. Go on shbox.com and double check the inside connections are the same for your 95 harness if you choose to use that. 94 harness has a bunch of differences in more than one engine harness to body connector, and i am dealing with the same thing. Its gonna be a pain if u go that route

[SSlowBoat]

The pcm is the same plug and play

[BLK95TA]

ouch. i bet it went something like this....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMK46ob-__s

knight rider landings they didn't let you see, lol.

[OVA1]

Oooohh… The p a a i i n. That blows brother.

Good luck gettin' it all back together.

[SMok3 Em A11]

Only a glimpse of its former glory!!
Before
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After & I tried to document as much of the paint and body imperfections as possible.
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In this the hood is not bolted to the hinges but if you look there is a paint imperfections on the fender somewhat center about 3" from top.
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This one needs to be replaced.
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And this mess!!
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[Ugod02010]

I do believe I had that song in my head as it was happening.!!! Lol. I'm guessing it kinda looked like the third or fourth jump where u can see the frame just buckle.

[Ugod02010]

Hopefully Chris changes his mind about needing the wire harness. I'm not looking forward to changing all that. Lol. Thanks OVA1. I am going to rebuild. Like I said it will be kinda cool both birds will get a new life.

[Ugod02010]

I'm diggin it man. Can't wait. I'll make a build thread once I get down there and pic the car up. I am gonna start breaking down the formula this weekend. So anyone need any body pieces most of it is still good. The front bumper is cracked but its easily fixable. Rear bumpers good doors are good hoods good. I'm not sure about interior stuff that i will need so ill put everything in the classifieds once I go thru and see what all I need and don't. If u are in need of something ask I may have it.

[Ugod02010]

I have been crazy busy over the last few days. Not sure if anyone cares. LOL. figured I'd throw an update out. I pulled some things off the formula. Not much tho I am in the process of getting my impala back on the road. I also smashed this one a few yrs ago. Being drunk and stupid...And trying to get together the gas money and trailor money to run a good few hrs to pick up the other T/A. But I will not let the LTX die!!! Gotta say I've had a shitpyle of cars over the past 14yrs and the 3rd and 4th gen birds/camaros are by far the funnest best looking cars on the road!! Hopefully this weekend I should have the imp back rolling and I can focus on getting things rolling with this transplant/build!!!

[popo8]

Of course we care...

Tell us about this imp.

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[Ugod02010]

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[Ugod02010]

My phones been giving me a hard time. It's a02. Def a sheep in wolfs clothing. Lol. it was the first new,new car i bought. I bougt it only had pike 59000 on it i ran it way up. But she dont give me no shit i turn the key and drive across tr county and back. With 3 kids and my ol lady. Haha. I got the core support burned in tonite so I just gotta start painting and put things back together. Think tommorrow ill get a good test fit with the headlights and bumper and all that. I been crazy busy between work tryin to scrape up for the roller from Chris and then trying to get this one going too so I got my driver rolling again.

[popo8]

Had one of those....it was an 04 with the 3800.... it didnt do to well with the abuse of police work..... but it was a decent car.

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[Ugod02010]

I always liked the look of them. I was looking to do something different. There used to be a giant shitpyle of these but I only ever seen 1 other one actually done up. I think that's y most cop stations went right back to the crown Vic. Take one good hit in these and nothing left and it take a shop a wk to fix even ligh damage. I know as many welds as I got on this thing the front gets wrecked again, I damn sure ain't gonna be the one to cut it out. The 3.4 seems to stay going better or there not as beat up. Most of the older ones from like 00-02 are 3.4s.


I just noticed is that rear quarter of the car in front a Camaro. And is that a actual pic or an Internet find?

[Ugod02010]

23753 These pics are out of order this is where my little helper had cut the core support out and did all the hard work I just drank beer and waited for him to get that out and weld the new one in. He works a little slow and complains about pay. But what can u do. Lol

[popo8]

We actually had to make custom support brackets becsuse the steering racks were tearing out of the front aluninum subframes...

Told ya...we are tough on cars. we replaced our 04s with 09s...amd they are still currently in service...amd our NEWEST cars... Lol

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[Ugod02010]

I kinda figured the aluminum front frame would be another weak link. I been kicking around the idea when the 3.4 does die in a few more yrs I may try to find a wrecked 08 or so SS with the ls4 and do a v8 swap. I've seen it done b4. Looks like a hell of a log of work tho. I am getting antsy tho wanting to go pick up the trans am that Chris is gonna sell me!! I got a couple more weekends then I should have enough cash to make the drive to pick it up. If all goes well this weekend the imp should be pretty much back together and I can start tearing the formula down. I will start another thread In the build section when I start tearing down and doing the rebuild.

[SMok3 Em A11]

Looks like you're about done with the imp.

[Ugod02010]

She's damn near done. Hell if I can't borrow a truck to make the trip down there I may just throw a hitch on and tow the t/a up here with it!. Tommorrow I'm hoping on getting all the body panels on and lining things up. Don't think I'll be painting it till after I get the t/a and get rid of what I don't need between the formula and the transam.

[Ugod02010]

23831Cor

[Ugod02010]

Been a little while figured I would start surveying the damage to the underside. I'm surprised my wheel wasn't destroyed but its good. The spindle and top a arm seem to be okay. Buy I think the shock is blown out. And the bottom control arm is bent to shit. I'm afraid to take that off b/c it may not go back in And I'm planning on dropping motor out the bottom to do the transplant with the roller from Chris.(smokemall) just scraping funds together now and doing the waiting game ugh.

[Ugod02010]

I can only load 1 pic b/c my phone sucks

[Ugod02010]

23988Spring and lca

[Ugod02010]

24476Under the steering wheel every wire here has a tap into it. Is this from the factory? Or what in gods name were they trying to do with this?
Iafter seeng more and more of what was done to the demonbird I think I'm kinda glad I'm swapping for a new one.

[Ugod02010]

Ripping the interior apart. Getting ready for the swap. Hopefully next weekend. As long as it quits raining long enough down in va for Gris to get his motor/trans out!!
lining up the shipping company hopefully next fri or sat. I can get it up here I'm hoping on only a few days to get the motor in and interior back together!!! Then winter time I'll get into the bodywork and that stuff

[Ugod02010]

I am thinking when I drop the motor I have the drivers side tire,spring, and all that off I may do the same on the passenger side so I don't have to raise the body as high to clear. And put the engine/Kframe onto some Dolly's And slide it out. Any advice or tips? First time I'm dropping a engine on my 3rd gens I pulled em up through.



Also I have a lot of parts off this car if anyone needs stuff let me know!!!

[HunterZ28]

Damn:(