Which direction should I go with my setup?

[BoostedTurd]

Sorry guys for not posting much lately, been working crazy hours.

Anyway, everything for my front mount intercooler setup is mocked up. Just haven't installed it due to not having an overflow tank yet.

I'm debating going a different direction with my setup.. I was originally going to install the FMIC and put one size smaller pulley on to try and get more power out of it. But not knowing whether my bottom end is stock or not, I am starting to lean away from this setup. Instead, I was thinking about ordering a custom ground cam from LE this weekend for the supercharger, and then looking into some headwork. Basically working my motor around the 7.5psi of boost I'm running now.

I made 360whp/360wtq in my current non intercooled setup. I have roller rockers hardened pushrods etc, but I feel as though it has either a stock cam or a very mild cam. And I know the heads are stock. If I get a custom grind that's a little more aggressive and get some headwork done, as well as a retune I should easily be able to break the 400whp mark should I not? My tune has always ran way rich and seemingly off anyway.

I feel a good cam/head combo on the current 7.5psi I have now would be a more reliable setup then trying to boost more on a bottom end im unsure of.

Everyones opinions?

[BoostedTurd]

I was looking on Advanced Inductions website. Someone was running a stock LT1 with an S-trim @ 6psi with AI's 200cc head and cam kit and made 482rwhp.

I think my decision is made. I'm going to work with my head and cam setup and ditch the FMIC/more boost idea.

[Still2slow]

My setup is making 488rwhp with bone stock heads and bottom end (except for valve springs for the cam, guide plates, rocker studs and roller rockers). The heads have never been removed from the block. This is on about 7.5 psi from a non-aftercooled vortech S-Trim with alkycontrol methanol injection. This combo has made over 520rwhp uncorrected on a cold day.

The benefit of going with a good h/c package is making the power safely with less boost, like the AI car @ 6psi. I had a pulley made to give me another pound but never installed it because I think the stock bottom is on the edge currently. Mine has lasted for a few reasons 1. Luck, 2. Methanol, 3. A good tune, 4. I don't rag on it in the summer. It's made numerous dyno pulls and multiple track trips but never if its warmer than 80 degrees out. Hope my personal experience with a ticking timebomb helps!

[SSlowBoat]

oh i see you posted here eric lol. i think you should go heads/cam first before going big boy blower. sounds like a safer progression. you may see something fubar'd when you tear down for the heads/cam, that if you just went fmic/more boost you wouldnt see and then go pop after you pull out of your driveway.

[BoostedTurd]

Thanks for the replies guys. I already emailed Lloyd Elliot. Around September when the money comes around I'm going to get the LE2 heads from him and he recommended a 223/234 .565/565 112 LSA cam that I'm going to order as well.

Should be a fun ride when it's done, most likely going to take it to PSI locally to have them tune it. They do Vortech/Prochargers all the time and have the countries fastest mustang. They've done an awesome job on a few of my friends cars.

The front mount definitely looks badass but I feel this is the right setup for more power. I'm gonna fab up some subframe connectors before I get it all done.

[BoostedTurd]

Oh and I'm trying to stay away from the whole alcohol thing. I know I could make more power but I'd rather have a pump gas tune

[Still2slow]

Oh and I'm trying to stay away from the whole alcohol thing. I know I could make more power but I'd rather have a pump gas tune

The methanol is a stand alone system that only sprays (into the intake tract before the TB) when in boost via a map sensor. I would HIGHLY recommend it if you want the stock bottom end to last unless your only looking for 4 or 5 psi. It's basically a chemical intercooler. Sounds like its going to be a nice setup with that head/cam combo, and likely capable of 600+ down the road with a forged bottom and the vortech pullied up!

[Ryan Stout]

I agree with still2slow. I have a progressive devil's own setup. I like it pretty well.

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[SSlowBoat]

make sure psi can handle tuning a boosted lt1. yes i know they tune 1000+whp mustangs and lsx's, but a boosted lt1 is finicky. i have heard many stories of multiple tuners countless dollars etc because of a boosted lt1 lol

[popo8]

make sure psi can handle tuning a boosted lt1. yes i know they tune 1000+whp mustangs and lsx's, but a boosted lt1 is finicky. i have heard many stories of multiple tuners countless dollars etc because of a boosted lt1 lol

He is right....^^^^


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[BoostedTurd]

I'm pretty sure hes done a few lt1s before, They're smart guys. That's also where I went for the 360 figure so It'll be on the same dyno so I can see how much I truly gained.
And you really think I'd need Meth injection at only 6psi?

[shownomercy]

I'm pretty sure hes done a few lt1s before, They're smart guys. That's also where I went for the 360 figure so It'll be on the same dyno so I can see how much I truly gained.
And you really think I'd need Meth injection at only 6psi?

It is not a pure matter of boost number, look at your IAT numbers.

I would guess come summer drives, their gonna be sky high and the engine can only pull so much timing,and pump gas can only give you so much....

Piece together a kit and run it off a hobbs switch, simple and gives you some safety. Just make sure you place nozzle in the air tract before the air sees the IAT.

[BoostedTurd]

I guess I'll look into it then. I'm definitely trying to keep it reliable.
Thanks for the help guys, definitely one of the best forums I've been on!

[CALL911]

I would also reccomend the meth injection for added safety. It would help keep your IAT's cool and keep you away from detonation.

As far as your combo, it sounds like you are making some good choices IMO to make more power without adding more stress on your motor.

FWIW, Fastbird has a custom spec'd blower cam for sale that would probably work perfect for what you are looking for.


http://ltxtech.com/forums/showthread.php?23623-Gnarly-Cam

[BoostedTurd]

I saw that post. Definitely caught my attention. But I won't have the money to build my setup until september so I'm probably going to get the parts straight from Lloyd.

[BoostedTurd]

Building a car is a very lengthy process when you're 19 years old working as a detailer haha. Takes a while to get large sums of money saved.

[CALL911]

Building a car is a very lengthy process when you're 19 years old working as a detailer haha. Takes a while to get large sums of money saved.

Nope, I totally understand. That's why I mentioned it. You'll save quite a bit buying Fastbirds cam over buying a cam from Lloyd.

[BoostedTurd]

If he still has it in a little while I would definitely look into purchasing it off him.