Front end gets real flighty under WOT

[JOATMON]

@JOATMON Are you looking for a street/twisty backroad setup or something more drag oriented? And what springs and shocks are on the front now? You can quell the front end lift by going with higher rate springs and shocks with more rebound up front, but you do sacrifice a little bit of load transfer to the rear tires by not lifting the nose. If it feels like the nose vaults up on the initial hit and then wallows around up there, I would focus on shocks more than springs.

I don't think camber is really going to net you a whole lot in this situation.

My has never really felt floaty with 275s up front, but I have been running streetcar springs (BMRs) for ages.

Like I mentioned to SNM I suppose I need a compromise between the two.
I'm trying to figure out why it drives so squirrelly under WOT yet drives and tracks pretty good when I don't have my foot in it.
Nolan

[JOATMON]

I'm sick right now, woke up Monday with the shingles in my left side. AGAIN, had it 9 years ago! So, I did some eyeball inspection without jacking it up or anything and found that the car is sitting 1/2" lower on the pass front versus the driver front. The rear is dead level.
After looking up with a flashlight, it appears the upper strut bearing seat rubber is collapsed, looks all squishy.
Now I'm beginning to think I may need to do a basic front end check and or repair job. Check everything for wear and replace if needed.
Once I get that done we may restart this conversation.
Nolan

[JOATMON]

"No such thing as “free advice”….. you have to pay the price of reading my BS ye olde tyme stories."
Fred, I for one, wish you would participate more in the BS conversations here. Your expertise is valued here perhaps more than you realize.
In today's world, "ye olde tyme stories" are a pleasure to read.
Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Spohn Performance.

https://www.spohn.net/shop/1993-1997...-Sway-Bar.html

Steve Spohn used my car for measurements. We met on one of the early F-Body bulletin boards. He had a full time job as a welder, was starting to make F-Body suspension and chassis parts as a sideline. He needed to borrow a T56 to do a mock up of a kit to install the T56 in a 3rd Gen. I had a spare, dropped it off in PA where he lived. After that I would help him with photos and measurements on my Formula. Pushed his products on the F-Body boards.

I bought his early design adjustable torque arm. Turned out to be a real dog…. tended to bend. He comped me an upgraded replacement, made a custom front chassis arm mount with DS loop, then upgraded it again with a beefed up custom design arm, with the DS loop moved back because of the Gear Vendors O/D. That's what’s on the car now.

I was supposed to be the “suspension guy” on Baxter’s 9.0-second LT1. When George dropped the LT1 and replaced it with a Gen 1 engine making 1,350 at the flywheel (383ci Dart Iron Eagle, Brodix spread port exhaust 14°? heads, huge Vortech centrifugal S/C) to compete in the PRO Edelbrock series Extreme Street class I just told him to drop it off with Steve Spohn. Steve had gone full time performance suspension parts manufacturer, in a huge, empty Alcoa aluminum factory in central PA. When Steve got done it was a consistent 1.20 (occasional 1.1x) 60-ft. Only thing we changed was adding front suspension limiters - George lived in fear of big wheelstands. Car pulled the front wheels no more than 6” to 8”, sitting dead level.

He ran three events running low 8’s at high 160 mph. But couldn’t compete with the nitrous car in hot weather. Swore he would run nitrous on his next build. A few weeks later he asked me to sell the car, and never built another one.

No such thing as “free advice”….. you have to pay the price of reading my BS ye olde tyme stories.

we love your old time stories fred! keep em coming!

[SSlowBoat]

I'm sick right now, woke up Monday with the shingles in my left side. AGAIN, had it 9 years ago! So, I did some eyeball inspection without jacking it up or anything and found that the car is sitting 1/2" lower on the pass front versus the driver front. The rear is dead level.
After looking up with a flashlight, it appears the upper strut bearing seat rubber is collapsed, looks all squishy.
Now I'm beginning to think I may need to do a basic front end check and or repair job. Check everything for wear and replace if needed.
Once I get that done we may restart this conversation.
Nolan

that would be a good starting point as that could make it feel all wonky. feel better buddy

[JOATMON]

Oh, I forgot. Fred, I looked at that sway bar setup. It's a beast, looks like it would work good under the back of my motorhome. LOL
Thanks for the link to his products.
Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Oh, I forgot. Fred, I looked at that sway bar setup. It's a beast, looks like it would work good under the back of my motorhome. LOL
Thanks for the link to his products.
Nolan

the stock style curved one is on the bird not the straight bar splined end one

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