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    Default AFR 210 vs AI Trickflow 215

    Looking for new heads for my 396 and I'm torn between these 2. Anyone have any experience with them? Car is a full weight street car with a T56.
    95 Cyber Grey Formula M6
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    Michael glick runs ai 215 21s and runs low 10s with a sr 396 making well over 600hp na

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    Just curious what the decision on this was? I know the thread is a few months old now but I've read some horror stories of Trick Flow's valvetrain geometry. Great flowing cylinder head but if it's going to prematurely wear out valve guides because the rockers won't align on the valves even with adjustable guide plates, also have read that the machine work on them causes pushrods to jump out of lifters. Curious here?

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    I've had my AI 215's for years now. No problems with lifters, PR or guides. The machine-work and product were top notch!
    Last edited by Flyinz; 02-26-2020 at 07:39 PM.
    94' Z -383 LTx, AI TFS 215cc heads/C/I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious95Z28 View Post
    Just curious what the decision on this was? I know the thread is a few months old now but I've read some horror stories of Trick Flow's valvetrain geometry. Great flowing cylinder head but if it's going to prematurely wear out valve guides because the rockers won't align on the valves even with adjustable guide plates, also have read that the machine work on them causes pushrods to jump out of lifters. Curious here?
    Running LE Trickflows. The guide plates that came with them had to be ground a little bit to go a hair closer together, but other than that no issue.
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    AI 212 TFS heads here, 520 RWHP NA. I'm happy with them but since I've converted to a single plane and SR cam I've been curious if I've out grown them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 96LT1355Z28 View Post
    AI 212 TFS heads here, 520 RWHP NA. I'm happy with them but since I've converted to a single plane and SR cam I've been curious if I've out grown them.
    Is this bottom end still a 355?

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    AFR 210's have great flow numbers but also have their issues with quality control and rocker arm alignment. I don't have any experience with Trick Flows so I can't say one way or another.
    See this thread that involves AFR210's;
    http://www.ltxtech.com/forums/showth...p-end-overhaul

    Oh I never actually finished the thread because my photos kept disappearing. The aggravation was just too much for me.
    Last edited by JOATMON; 02-26-2020 at 05:52 PM.
    '94 Z28 Bone stock,4l60e
    '97 SS SLP,T56,385 stroker,AFR210,XFI292,NO traction til top of 3rd gear.
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    FYI For anyone trying to go AI, find them used. Otherwise go thru Karl Ellwein, he can get them quicker
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSlowBoat View Post
    FYI For anyone trying to go AI, find them used. Otherwise go thru Karl Ellwein, he can get them quicker
    AI is still doing gen 2 heads?
    1994 Trans Am GT - HPS Ported Heads/Intake, LE Cam, FTI 3600, TP Built 4L60e, Moser 9" w/ 3.90's, BMR Suspension, Formato Tuned

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