4L80E weighs 65# more than a 4L60E

**CPT** · 07-11-2014, 10:57 AM

The personal attacks are derived from trying to deal with someone so hard headed that you can't get through to them. How many transmissions have YOU built? How long have you been doing this for a living? Why is my "opinion" more plausible than Jakes? I've explained this numerous times but you're too thick headed to understand it... I build BOTH transmissions, and my 4L60E reputation speaks for itself. Again, I know it's like talking to a wall, but here goes again. Atleast the other people reading this thread will be smart enough to grasp this. I build 4L80E. I have them in low 10 second turbo LS cars. It would cost me less money to build 4L80s than 4L60Es. My profit margin would be wider. The ONLY reason I would push a 4L80E is if I didn't know how to build a 4L60E because I know it's not the right transmission for the vehicle. Go back to Jakes FAQ page. See where he lists the fictitious weight difference between a 60 and an 80? Why would you believe anything else on that page when we already know that's fictitious. I could go through all the trouble an expense to do back to back tests, but you would still try to promote your alternate reality to keep from admitting the truth. I could post dyno sheets and videos, but in all your thick headedness, you'd claim it was all rigged. You made a mistake. You put the wrong trans in your car. I know misery loves company, but stop trying to drag others down with you. Now, lets bring up one other issue. Weren't you just on another forum a few months ago trying to diagnose problems with your 4L80E? I thought you guys all claimed they never fail? That's not adding a whole bunch of credibility to your arguement is it?

Frank

**CPT** · 07-11-2014, 11:02 AM

Good question, but considering I just built a 4L80E yesterday that wiped the pump and 3rd gear clutches out of it in less than 2 months (by another builder), I'd have to say it's pretty equal.

Frank

**CPT** · 07-11-2014, 11:03 AM

LOL... 2 candidates that beat the 4L80E drum religiously. There's no way I'd get accurate results from either.

Frank

**CPT** · 07-11-2014, 11:08 AM

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Yesterday... I had it here because it blew the front seal out.

Frank

**CPT** · 07-11-2014, 11:12 AM

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3 weeks ago. Anybody else want to claim I don't build 4L80Es?

Frank

**Ryan Stout** · 07-11-2014, 11:13 AM

I don't beat my drum, but I do like my 80. Although I am open minded. My offer still stands.

**Ryan Stout** · 07-11-2014, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by shownomercy

Feeling a good internet argument today, so leggoo

60e to 80e dyno

50whp loss right CPT?

Actually, Jake had nothing to do with the dyno tests. A customer did his own tests and sent him the results after the fact.

**Neil350** · 07-11-2014, 11:38 AM

Saying the 4L80E is heavier is like saying the real Eiffel tower is in Paris, it's a known fact it's heavier. Saying any one would be silly to put a 4L80E in over a 4L60E is a bit off. Look at the track record of the 4L80E, Ohio Boys went 7.9s, Dave Childress went 8.6s with one. A friend owns Dave's old car and that thing has taken some serious abuse, same with another friend who has one in his nitrous LS1 F-body. There's tons of other examples out there. On the other hand if you had an 11-13 second F-body, is one needed, probably not. Just a matter of choosing the right trans for the set up.

**firebird_1995** · 07-11-2014, 11:40 AM

I'm currently installing an 80e in my monte. I chose to go with it over any other overdrive transmission because of cost. With the trans, converter and hd2 shift kit I'm under $1k. When i looked into other option that could handle the same range hp as the 80e the price was $2500+. I can't justify that cost.