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    Quote Originally Posted by joelster View Post
    If you run shaft rockers you can sell the rocker studs and guideplates since they won't be used.
    You mean on the new motor? Because I am looking and trying to figure out why AFR wants a street car to be mandatory for SHaft mounts, and a race car to be able to go either way. It almost seems like that should be the reverse....


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    Quote Originally Posted by popo8 View Post
    You mean on the new motor? Because I am looking and trying to figure out why AFR wants a street car to be mandatory for SHaft mounts, and a race car to be able to go either way. It almost seems like that should be the reverse....
    Idling is harder on solid roller lifters than racing. That's why you typically see solid roller motors idling over 1000rpm. AFR is assuming that a race motor is going to have the valve covers off checking lash every weekend which is why they feel it's acceptable to run stud rockers for a race application. It's all about run-time. Take your car out for a 60 minute street cruise. Now, in order for you to have 60 minutes of run-time on a drag car you'd need to make about 40-45 dragstrip passes. That would be 3 or 4 races worth of time. Chances are a racer will check the lash a few times in that amount of run-time. No way would someone be checking the valve lash on their street car everytime they drove it. The intake rockers with the offset will have a side load placed on them at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joelster View Post
    Idling is harder on solid roller lifters than racing. That's why you typically see solid roller motors idling over 1000rpm. AFR is assuming that a race motor is going to have the valve covers off checking lash every weekend which is why they feel it's acceptable to run stud rockers for a race application. It's all about run-time. Take your car out for a 60 minute street cruise. Now, in order for you to have 60 minutes of run-time on a drag car you'd need to make about 40-45 dragstrip passes. That would be 3 or 4 races worth of time. Chances are a racer will check the lash a few times in that amount of run-time. No way would someone be checking the valve lash on their street car everytime they drove it. The intake rockers with the offset will have a side load placed on them at all times.
    Thank You man.....

    Do you know if these will work with whatever hydraulic cam set up I get?

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    You'd have to get a part number from the guy. AFR has made the 227's for a long time, and i'm not sure if the newer eliminators have the same geometry as the older 227's. Those could be for the older heads, but again, I don't know if they are the same thing or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joelster View Post
    You'd have to get a part number from the guy. AFR has made the 227's for a long time, and i'm not sure if the newer eliminators have the same geometry as the older 227's. Those could be for the older heads, but again, I don't know if they are the same thing or not.
    Ok, so maybe I should contact AFR and see if that ever changed???


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    Or Jesel to see if they have different part numbers for different AFR 227 heads.
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    Ok, decided to work with Comp Cam.... see if they can provide me with a rocker/cam set up....


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    Been speaking with COmp Cams.....

    I am not sure what springs the new heads got, however I am going to take the heads out and have the springs "measured."

    Once I have figured that out, it looks like Comp said they would do a custom grind, and here is the cam that is being suggested. IDK this stuff, will someone look at these numbers for me, and tell me if this is a good cam.....



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    Larry, that looks like a pretty good healthy cam for your car. I almost would reccomed getting the LSA to a 114 instead of a 113, but that's just more of a personal opinion as I am sure they know what they are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CALL911 View Post
    Larry, that looks like a pretty good healthy cam for your car. I almost would reccomed getting the LSA to a 114 instead of a 113, but that's just more of a personal opinion as I am sure they know what they are doing.
    Thank you... I dont know ANY of this stuff...... so I appreciate any advice...


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